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Probelmm with TC7 Help on Vista
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 11:18 am    Post subject: Probelmm with TC7 Help on Vista Reply with quote

Hello

Im hafe a smal problemm with the help of tc7 on vista (Final Version vrom MSDN), but im not shure ad is the rigth topic for the bug / request /.. also im not shure if i are the first how reortet the problem. And accualli ist not a bug of TC Smile but im think MS wil not change tere vista Smile

When i open the help (f1) in TC7.0pb2 i receve following message:

"Why can't I get Help from this program?

The Help for this program was created in Windows Help format, which was used in previous versions of Windows and it is not supported in Windows Vista.

For more information, see Windows Help program (WinHlp32.exe) is no longer included with Windows on the Microsoft support website."

Sorry for my bad english & and thanks for the notice of the bug

Kind Regards Konrad
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unfortunately, Vista does not support 32-bit HLP (but still supports 16-bit HLP, though in general the support for 16-bit programs is dropped! An incredibly wise idea! Evil or Very Mad ). So, you either need 16-bit HLP file (original TC help is 16-bit, BTW, so it should work), or use CHM file instead.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 3:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello Flint

Tanks for the tipp with the help file

Regards / Gruss Konrad
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 5:00 am    Post subject: ½ OT… and joke ! Reply with quote

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Smile Hello K. !
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…An incredibly wise idea! Evil or Very Mad

• Ho yes ! I heard that now, they are wearing NEW HATS ! Laughing

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 10:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I find that Vista have some nice gadgets but , no support for normal help files is discusting, did the dont use ther Bains in redmond ?? Smile

but Accually the benefits of windows Vista are still there

(Pls Note: this is my Opinion and i downt wanth to hurt some weher)

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 2:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's strange, I'm explicitly calling the old winhelp.exe on Vista, which has been present even when winhlp32.exe has been removed. I haven't tried with Vista final yet, though, I'm waiting for the MSDN DVD to arrive...
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 3:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Strange, but it seems that MS did not include winhelp.exe into Vista x64 (at least, I could not find it), but it present (and working) in Vista x86.
Tested both final versions under VMware.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah, I see - that's sad. I'm waiting with the move to HTML help until the author of HelpScribble updates it to work better with IE7/Vista.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 11:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Has anyone written a help file for the AP Help system in Vista? Any opinions?

Some links:
http://www.help-info.de/de/Help_Info_AP_Help/ap_help.htm
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/APHelp
http://www.helpware.net/aphelp/default.htm
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 5:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Would be nice to move to HTML Help because currently you cannot search on a help page with Ctrl+F.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 11:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did anyone find a way to close html help with ESC?
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 11:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ghisler(Author) wrote:
Did anyone find a way to close html help with ESC?

I doubt it is possible. I tried to handle Esc with JavaScript, but hh.exe does not allow to close the help window silently, it shows a message box instead ("Wanna close? Yes/No"). Sad
However, I have not investigated the problem very deeply, maybe there is some way that I missed.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 12:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alt+Space and C is just as fast IMO.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 12:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

roentgen666 wrote:
Alt+Space and C is just as fast IMO.

In this case, Alt+F4 is even faster. Very Happy But Esc is more usual way to close the help window.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 12:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Alt+F4 is even faster.

We should have a contest... you will lose with such method for sure Very Happy
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