Is it Vista or is it TC?

[pwright2]

I've got a Gateway dual core laptop and Windows Vista Home Premium. I never know what to blame performance problems on, Vista or some fault in the laptop. Maybe someone can tell me in this instance.

I have a bunch of program open but when they aren't doing much the two cores cycle between 5 and 20 percent (not in sync). My 1GB RAM is running about 80% (Not good, I know).

But, anyhow, when I tell TC 7.01 to delete a bunch of files both cores go to 100% (not continuously but they keep going back there until the operations are finished), memory goes to 100% and the process is rather slow. This doesn't happen when using Explorer to delete files.

So, is this Vista, TC, or ...?

-----Paul-----

[ghisler(Author)]

Please press Ctrl+Shift+ESC to open the task manager. Go to the page which lists the processes, then click on CPU to show you which processes take that much CPU time.

when I tell TC 7.01 to delete a bunch of files both cores go to 100%

It could be caused by a virus scanner which scans all files when you delete them, because they are actually moved to recycle bin, not really deleted.

[Scyphe]

The same thing happens here and I don't have an A/V or other realtime scanner installed. It's one of the few complaints I have about Total Commander. Can it be related to SearchIndexer or is the deletion made in some unusual fashion that exhibits this behaviour?

[img=http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/8903/slowdeletionsu1.th.jpg]

[ghisler(Author)]

It's definitely not normal, on our dual core the processor usage is very low when deleting, with Kaspersky actively scanning the files.

I repeat: Go to the page which lists the processes, then click on CPU to show you which processes take that much CPU time.

[HolgerK]

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I repeat: Go to the page which lists the processes, then click on CPU to show you which processes take that much CPU time.

The linked image shows 88% CPU load for "TOTALCMD.EXE *32"

2Scyphe,
Vista 64 ?

Kind regards,
Holger

[Scyphe]

...
I repeat: Go to the page which lists the processes, then click on CPU to show you which processes take that much CPU time.

The linked image shows 88% CPU load for "TOTALCMD.EXE *32"

2Scyphe,
Vista 64 ?

Kind regards,
Holger

Yes, Vista Ultimate x64. The more files I select for deletion, the slower it is. And it doesn't matter which drive I'm deleting files from. It is sort of strange though because there are times when it's very fast. It's not something that will make me stop using TC (in fact, without TC I'd be blind, deaf & mute at the same time, it's hands-down the best tool for PC ever and I've converted quite a number of people that couldn't live without it these days).

[HolgerK]

2Scyphe,

Did you test these suggestions: http://ghisler.ch/board/viewtopic.php?p=130666#130666 ?

Kind regards,
Holger

[Scyphe]

Neither of those things are turned on here, I just checked.

[HolgerK]

I have to attest, that there is definitely some odd behavior in TC's delete method (or something is totally wrecked with my Vista installation).

Test environment:
- Test with Vista Ultimate32 (regular updated)
- Desktop PC with AMD X2 and 2GByte RAM
(Vista's overall performance rating is 5.3 for this machine)
- Recyle.bin was always empty before deleting
- Virus scanner was turned off during test
- Used a test folder with 1600 Files (123MByte)
- TC was started with command line parameter "/i=test.ini" (default settings)

1st Test:
Marked the test folder and deleted with <SHIFT+DEL> (this is my preferred way to delete files or folders)
-> Result: 3 seconds.

2nd Test:
Repeated the procedure, but this time I selected "Use Explorer delete method" and deleted with <DEL> (move folder to recycle.bin)
-> Result: 1 second.

3rd Test:
Same procedure... This time "Use Explorer delete method" was unchecked and deletion was done with <DEL> (move every single file to recycle.bin)
-> Result: 80 seconds!!!
- In addition I mentioned a significant increased use of memory!

I did additional tests (condition 3) with an XP pro installation (dual boot, same machine) and monitored the CPU load and memory consumption with Sysinternals Process Explorer:

http://holgerk.drivehq.com/TC/TC701_Delete2RecycleBin_XP_VISTA.gif

Left side of the picture shows 4 times the deletion of the test folder under Windows XP.
Right side shows one single deletion process under Windows Vista.
The deletion under Vista leaves a memory leak of more than 475MByte !!!

Another effect, I mentioned during the test, is that deletion in XP is extremely slow, if explorer shows the recycle.bin folder during the test.

Maybe someone can confirm this observations?

Kind regards,
Holger