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Windows 7 "Libraries" Compatibility
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 8:28 am    Post subject: Windows 7 "Libraries" Compatibility Reply with quote

In Windows 7 / Server 2008 R2 (Beta1 MSDN), there is a new feature in the user profile called 'libraries'.
This feature is kinda like the Vista User folders like Pictures, Music etc,
just a bit differently arranged.

These are my libraries, if I press enter on them in Total Commander, the correct library opens in Explorer Very Happy
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c:\Users\SB\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Libraries\Documents.library-ms
c:\Users\SB\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Libraries\Music.library-ms
c:\Users\SB\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Libraries\Pictures.library-ms
c:\Users\SB\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Libraries\Projects.library-ms
c:\Users\SB\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Libraries\Videos.library-ms


I was wondering if anyone knows how to access these libraries in Total Commander?
Or if we would need some kind of plugin etc.

Thanks!
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 10:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This feature is NOT kinda like the Vista User folders like Pictures, Music !!
Its like temporary folders and can contain files from many disjunct places.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 5:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sickboy6th wrote:
In Windows 7 / Server 2008 R2 (Beta1 MSDN), there is a new feature in the user profile called 'libraries'.
This feature is kinda like the Vista User folders like Pictures, Music etc,
just a bit differently arranged.

These are my libraries, if I press enter on them in Total Commander, the correct library opens in Explorer Very Happy
Code:

c:\Users\SB\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Libraries\Documents.library-ms
c:\Users\SB\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Libraries\Music.library-ms
c:\Users\SB\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Libraries\Pictures.library-ms
c:\Users\SB\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Libraries\Projects.library-ms
c:\Users\SB\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Libraries\Videos.library-ms



When you enter a file from TC and it opens in Explorer, there are just a few possible reasons for that:

- Explorer is the default setting for "OPEN" for this extension in the registry
- X64-Windows did a "file system redirection" to keep the "System 32" clear/safe
- The User directories are not exactly only temporary, but we can imagine them as "stored search results". (One can use the Vista-search to create these green folders). TC can handle Systemvariables, but it is not using the native windows-search function. TC didn't show the localized names for such directories, but is going to show always their real name/path.

I hope that we will have some day a Compatibility-Modus for that. Otherwise the TC will become worthless from Vista on...

Please have a look at this Topic:
Cannot see certain files / directories in Windows XP 64 bits
This Topic is all about a setting in the TC-Configuration: x64DisableRedirection=0

The mentioned Wiki page comes with some links to topics, where hardlinks and junctions were used to manage these directories. Please use the forum-search function on those two. Read and understand that a deletion means a deletion ! It is not a link.

Sickboy6th wrote:
I was wondering if anyone knows how to access these libraries in Total Commander?
Or if we would need some kind of plugin etc.


There is a chance, that CTRL+PageDown opens the desired files in the TC-Panel, when you have a plugin installed and configured. -Multiarc, -Ressource, or just rename the file (Backup first)
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 6:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stance wrote:
Otherwise the TC will become worthless from Vista on...

Currently, Windows is worthless from Vista on, so...?


That's just a personal opinion, of course.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 10:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Currently, Windows is worthless from Vista on, so...?


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 12:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you press F3 over such "folder" you'll see that in fact it's just a text file containing something like http://pastebin.com/f23114e58

Long live Microsoft and their programmers.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's basically really just a virtual folder like Windows Desktop but defined by the user and dedicated for a certain content type. In Explorer each content type can be view in an optimized way.
Anyway this construct has the same problems like duplicate folder and file names. It's still very file-oriented and not comparable to a library in a real image or video managing tool.
At the end I guess it would be easy to support in TC but the benefit is questionable.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 8:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

But, anyway, it would be a really great feature to be able to view the libraries in TC. That is, be able to collect a view of files from different sources.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry to bump this, but the RC is out and nobody really seems to know how to handle these new "creatures".

How do I access them from CMD or from TC?

I've been ignoring Vista for quite some time and successfully so, to say the least, but Win 7 can't be ignored i'm afraid.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

@ZoSTeR

I doubt that it can be implemented, as they are virtual folders, like the Recycle Bin, and do not physically exist as folders in the file system.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 6:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just found some info that might be interesting to Mr Ghisler and plugin developers:

Inside Windows 7: Introducing Libraries
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 7:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Throw out win 7 and return to 98SE... it's the best way Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 7:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

@ siealex : mmmhmm, I'm lucky if I can hack driver .inf's to get them to install on Win2K ...
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 6:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Windows libraries can only in the directory tree achieved.
Is there something new?

For Example with a new cm_OpenLibraries command?
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 9:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And is there some other way to have easily usable view of g:\movies hd + h:\movies hd together in TC?
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