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Internal Associations, 8.3 names

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The latest build of Opera browser can open cyrillic-named files only via 8.3 name. Until it will be fixed by Opera devs, I have to use a button on TC's button bar which passes 8.3 name to Opera.exe or toggles cm_SwitchLongNames. But it's not the best solution - I need to open such files by pressing Enter.

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Is there a way to associate program in Windows or TC 7.5 to open files by 8.3 name?

If not, suggestion to TC Internal associaton system:
in addition to "%1" some new parameter which passes 8.3 name.
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I suggest you don`t use "" . This may help. Not tested thouth.
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I already use quotes ("%1"), it doesn't help.
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May be it was a translation problem. Sorry then. Я предложил НЕ использовать кавычки. Although, I have tested myself. It doesn`t helps. :(
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Maybe %p%n instead of %P%N works? It should pass the short dos name to Opera.
I already use quotes ("%1"), it doesn't help.
He said that you should NOT use "", just %1 alone...
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ghisler(Author) wrote:Maybe %p%n instead of %P%N works?
How can I use TC's params (like %p%n or %P%N) in Internal Associations?
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Sorry, this was meant for a button, or a hotkey (via em_* user-defined command). These cannot be used yet in internal associations.
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ghisler(Author) wrote:Sorry, this was meant for a button, or a hotkey (via em_* user-defined command). These cannot be used yet in internal associations.
Sad. Please add this to your wish-list.
I have a button, but I need association.

So the only way for now is to write a program or script to convert "%1" into short name and pass it to desired app...
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Just noted:
if to press Ctrl+Enter (and cm_SwitchLongNames is off) or drag file to command line, it displays a 8.3 name, but after pressing Enter, associated app using long name to open a file. It's a bug or feature?
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Define your internal association to:
OperaOpen83.cmd "%1"
Create a file, OperaOpen83.cmd in system32 (or within %PATH%)

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@ECHO OFF
CLS
START "" "C:\Program Files\Opera\Opera.exe" "%~s1"
If you want a generic 8.3 file opener, then define your internal association:
Open83.cmd "%ProgramFiles%\Opera\Opera.exe" "%1"
Create a file, Open83.cmd in system32

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@ECHO OFF
CLS
START "" "%~1" "%~s2"
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Balderstrom
Thanks very much for your batch scripts, they are works here!
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Post by *MVV »

DrShark, my Opera also sometimes don't opens files with Russian names. But I found a reason. Try to play with "Encode international Web adresses with UTF-8" checkbox in Network settings on Advanced tab in Preferences dialog (set this checkbox on).
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I know that opera:config#Network|UTF8EscapeURLs tweak helps, but I need to have it disabled, so 8.3 names currently is the only solution for me.
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Post by *kesdoputr »

Can i chane to
Open83.cmd "%2"
and Open83.cmd's content is

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@ECHO OFF
CLS
START "" "%COMMANDER_PATH%\TOOLS\Mplayer\mplayer.exe" "%~s1"
Then i select 3 files and use the command above,but i find that mplayer can only play the first file i select.When i change to
Open83.cmd "%1"
I will get three mplayer running at the same time,is there a parameter can send 8.3 path/names by sequence?

Thx for your reply :lol:
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kesdoputr wrote:Can i chane to
Open83.cmd "%2"
Try
Open83.cmd %2
without quotes.

This
START "" "%COMMANDER_PATH%\TOOLS\Mplayer\mplayer.exe" "%~s1"
should be changed to
START "" "%COMMANDER_PATH%\TOOLS\Mplayer\mplayer.exe" %*
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