Anyone interested in a Total Commander Wiki?

Post by *ghisler(Author) » 2005-06-03, 15:10 UTC

Yes, I had also used this "back to parent" in some of my articles, it's certainly a good way for navigation.

Lefteous · Post by *Lefteous » 2005-06-04, 07:54 UTC

2ghisler(Author)
As you can see here displaying external images in the wiki is no problem. The downside is that displaying frames and captions only works with uploaded images ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:How_to_edit_a_page#Images ).

I fear the wiki will fail without this feature. If I cannot edit the way I want the wiki doesn't make sense. So the decision is up to.

Vochomurka · Post by *Vochomurka » 2006-01-13, 18:43 UTC

Why I did not so far put my contents to the Wiki pages?
1. I've spent some months to prepare html-version of my script library. It would offend me to spend some more months to reformat all this for the Wiki.
2. Wiki pages can be edited by anyone who wants. So, if somebody modifies the script code (as a joke, of course), the script can be inoperative or even destructive for people who would use it. Do you want this? I don't.
3. Typical page describing a script is small (about 6 kb) and can be loaded even with very slow traffic. I am a bad web designer, and I use very simple html coding. Scripts themselves are about 2 kb each.

I hope Ergo will soon help me with opening my page at wincmd.ru or totalcmd.net servers. Please wait.

I keep learning the Wiki page editing rules to upload scripts there some day...

Please tell me what you think of the above.

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Post by *ghisler(Author) » 2006-01-13, 23:22 UTC

2Vochomurka
To prevent that your page gets edited, the best way is indeed to put up a link to an external static site. Alternatively, you can ask me to protect your pages from editing. For example, the FAQ - Ordering pages are protected so no one can enter fake prices for Total Commander...

icfu · Post by *icfu » 2006-01-14, 00:43 UTC

Protected static sites are annoying. If one thinks that his site is so "important" that it needs to be "protected" one should not post it in the Wiki but leave it where it is.

@ghisler:
Please move http://www.ghisler.ch/wiki/index.php/Ordering to http://www.ghisler.ch/wiki/index.php/FAQ_Ordering.

See discussion page http://www.ghisler.ch/wiki/index.php/Talk:FAQ for explanations.

@Vochomurka:
1. You can use HTML in the Wiki. If the content is worth it, someone will for sure take the time to convert it to Wiki style so you won't have much work to do.
2. AutoHotkey section is existing for a long time already. Vandalism is unlikely due to the registration.
3. Well?

Icfu

Sheepdog · Post by *Sheepdog » 2006-01-14, 00:49 UTC

icfu wrote:Protected static sites are annoying. If one thinks that his site is so "important" that it needs to be "protected" one should not post it in the Wiki but leave it where it is.

True.

@ghisler:
Please move http://www.ghisler.ch/wiki/index.php/Ordering to http://www.ghisler.ch/wiki/index.php/FAQ_Ordering.

Read http://www.ghisler.ch/wiki/index.php/Talk:FAQ for explanations.

Icfu

Or maybe consider to make somone else a wikisysop, too. That could free you from work that can be done by others as good (or better) as by you. I guess there are a few users you could trust enough to ask you before important changes.

sheepdog

icfu · Post by *icfu » 2006-01-14, 00:51 UTC

2 Fast 4 Me.

Icfu

Post by *ghisler(Author) » 2006-01-15, 10:01 UTC

Protected static sites are annoying. If one thinks that his site is so "important" that it needs to be "protected" one should not post it in the Wiki but leave it where it is.

Sorry, I would get into legal troubles if I allowed the change of the ordering pages. For example, someone could change the price of a licence to $1, and people could sue me for delivering the program to them at this price.

Please move http://www.ghisler.ch/wiki/index.php/Ordering to http://www.ghisler.ch/wiki/index.php/FAQ_Ordering.

OK, done!

The main problem with these delete/move actions are that my wiki user ghisler(Author) is also only a normal user. As recommended, I have created a separate admin user WikiSysop, who is currently the only user who can delete or move pages. Why? If there is some weakness in the Wiki which can tell others my login data (e.g. via a cross site scripting attack), he would only gain my unprivileged account data.

The problem with this is that I do not get any delete requests when logging in as normal user. Any ideas?

Post by *Hacker » 2006-01-15, 12:49 UTC

Christian,

ghisler(Author) wrote:
Protected static sites are annoying. If one thinks that his site is so "important" that it needs to be "protected" one should not post it in the Wiki but leave it where it is.
Sorry, I would get into legal troubles if I allowed the change of the ordering pages. For example, someone could change the price of a licence to $1, and people could sue me for delivering the program to them at this price.

Icfu didn't mean the ordering page, but a normal page having been made static to prohibit changes (as Vochomurka suggested, to protect his scripts from malicious modifications).

Roman

Sheepdog · Post by *Sheepdog » 2006-01-15, 13:05 UTC

ghisler(Author) wrote:The problem with this is that I do not get any delete requests when logging in as normal user. Any ideas?

As I proposed above: Maybe you could create another Wikisysop account for one user you trust. That one could have a look at the Wiki via RSS and will see all changes. Or he could observe the Categories: Kategorie:Löschen in the german Wiki and Category:Delete for the english Wiki. Those Categories contain all sites that use the template {{Löschantrag}} or {{DelRequest}} what should be all sites to be deleted.

And it could be placed a link with his email address for other requests (maybe a special one creates only for this purpose).

sheepdog

icfu · Post by *icfu » 2006-01-15, 13:11 UTC

@Hacker:
Exactly, although I sincerely doubt that anyone could sue ghisler because of wrong prices in a Wiki as only the price on the contract has any meaning.

Otherwise I'll visit my local Ferrari dealer tomorrow, exchange a price sign in the foyer and then buy my new Ferrari for 99 Cent. If he refuses to do so I'll sue him! Lucky me!

Icfu

Sheepdog · Post by *Sheepdog » 2006-01-15, 13:23 UTC

icfu wrote:I'll visit my local Ferrari dealer tomorrow, exchange a price sign in the foyer and then buy my new Ferrari for 99 Cent. If he refuses to do so I'll sue him! Lucky me!

Please can buy one for me, too? Thanks in advance.

sheepdog

icfu · Post by *icfu » 2006-01-15, 13:27 UTC

Maybe you could create another Wikisysop account for one user you trust.

I vote for a simple rule like

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All users with more than 1111 postings receive moderator status either automatically or by requesting ghisler. Users with less than 1111 postings may receive moderator status by requesting other moderators.

Please can buy one for me, too? Thanks in advance.

I'll see what I can do for you.

Icfu

SanskritFritz · Post by *SanskritFritz » 2006-01-15, 13:40 UTC

All users with more than 1111 postings receive moderator status either automatically or by requesting ghisler. Users with less than 1111 postings may receive moderator status by requesting other moderators.

Yeah! I want power!

Sheepdog · Post by *Sheepdog » 2006-01-15, 14:10 UTC

icfu wrote:

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All users with more than 1111 postings receive moderator status either automatically or by requesting ghisler. Users with less than 1111 postings may receive moderator status by requesting other moderators.

Sounds reasonable to me.

And regarding the site with prices (or other critical content) so may it not be included into the Wiki but linked to an external website. Maybe just a copy of the one at ghisler.com with an additional link "Back To Wiki".

I just changed that in the german Wiki as there are the ordering sites not protected till now.

sheepdog