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Suggestion to reorganize the Total Commander Wiki

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Suggestion to reorganize the Total Commander Wiki

The Total Commander Wiki should be about Total Commander. However the main article namespace of the wiki contains lots of pages not related to Total Commander. For example: there was a page called "Deletion" in the main namespace. This page was NOT about deletion in Total Commander, but had to do with the deletion of an article in the wiki. I moved this page into the "Help" namespace. I hope this example makes it clear what I am talking about.

I suggest to reorganize the articles following the following guidelines:
  • Put articles about Total Commander in the main namespace.
  • Put articles which explain how to use the wiki into the "Help" namespace.
  • Put articles about the wiki in the "TotalcmdWiki" namespace.
    These articles should include articles about goal of the wiki, characteristics of the wiki, translations of the wiki, guidelines and policies of the wiki, disclaimer.
  • Put articles that have only an indirect relation to Total Commander and do not fit in the available namespaces into the main namespace. Name the article in such a way there can be no confusion that this article is not (directly) about Total Commander.
    Example: An article about deletion in a plugin or addon program should not be named "Deletion", but should be named something like "<name of program or plugin>: Deletion".
I further suggest to make my suggestion a guideline for this wiki.
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Thanks for the initiative! I agree with you into most points.

The best is surely, if one uses the names of the Total Commander functions for a side name in the TCWiki. Example: Buttonbar or Deletion. *

The Wikifunctions "Buttonbar in the Wiki editor" or "Wiki-Deletion" should be in the "Category: Help". There you could add also a "Guideline for the TCWiki" in addition. One could also use "Wiki-Deletion" as title of the side.

* The Wiki-standard is: Use single words for pagenames. Use the singular, not the plural. I can guess that you don't need apostrophes when you keep it like that.
The links are clear and Texts are better readable. Don't use "beautyfied links" if possible. Easyier to edit for beginners and keeps the wikicode clear.

Article deletion can only made by the Wiki Sysop (Christian Ghisler). If articles are to be deleted, a discussion normally precedes. Contents of the side are normally seized together with other sides. The information is not to be lost!

It is simpler to improve an existing side or to begin a new side with other title. The redundant side can lie still for many years in a Wiki, without having to be deleted immediately.

Chinese or Dutch articles should be treated in "Translation - Category". :) The users have the need to write in their native language.

When Spam or illegal contents arises, these guidelines do not apply any longer: Delete illegal Contents immediately or upload another file with the same name of the content that used to be overwritten (P*rn or so).

By the way Discussions about the Wiki belong not into this forum but in the Wiki, therefore are the discussion tabs on every side.

We have encountered in the Wiki the problem that "Ini Settings" should be e.g. divided better. It is too pedantic to load and work on such a large side in the Wikieditor. It is really too unclear. The "Ini Settings" must be also always up to date. We began to use different background colours for the individual sections. Many users expect the "Ini Settings" in one individual side (like in the help file) it would be possible to make both: Divided sides with the Ini sections in the title of the side and one individual side, which can be downloaded or be used as Bookmark in the Browser.

Thx for babelfish... :oops:
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Thanks for your initiative! Yes, please mark articles for deletion if necessary, and notify me by e-mail as you did with the Chinese articles.
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ghisler(Author) wrote:Thanks for your initiative! Yes, please mark articles for deletion if necessary, and notify me by e-mail as you did with the Chinese articles.
OK. I have begun.
Stance wrote:Thanks for the initiative! I agree with you into most points.
Thanks for your reply.
Stance wrote:Chinese or Dutch articles should be treated in "Translation - Category". :) The users have the need to write in their native language.
Christian Ghisler has stated he does not allow content in a language he does not speak. So Chinese and Dutch articles are not allowed. That's an official wiki policy.

By the way, Chinese or Dutch articles belong in a Chinese or Dutch wiki, they should not be present in an English wiki.
Stance wrote: By the way Discussions about the Wiki belong not into this forum but in the Wiki, therefore are the discussion tabs on every side.
As far as I know discussions about the wiki are allowed here too. Furthermore the discussion tabs on every page are meant to discus the page the tab is on. It is not very useful to start a general discussion on a random discussion page.
It may be a good idea to create general discussion pages and a general discussions index page in the TotalcmdWiki namespace.
Likewise it may be a good idea to create project pages and a project index page in the TotalcmdWiki namespace.
Stance wrote: We have encountered in the Wiki the problem that "Ini Settings" should be e.g. divided better. It is too pedantic to load and work on such a large side in the Wikieditor. It is really too unclear. The "Ini Settings" must be also always up to date. We began to use different background colours for the individual sections. Many users expect the "Ini Settings" in one individual side (like in the help file) it would be possible to make both: Divided sides with the Ini sections in the title of the side and one individual side, which can be downloaded or be used as Bookmark in the Browser.
I will discuss this using the discussion tab of the wiki page ;-)
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white wrote:
Stance wrote: We have encountered in the Wiki the problem that "Ini Settings" should be e.g. divided better. It is too pedantic to load and work on such a large side in the Wikieditor. It is really too unclear. The "Ini Settings" must be also always up to date. We began to use different background colours for the individual sections. Many users expect the "Ini Settings" in one individual side (like in the help file) it would be possible to make both: Divided sides with the Ini sections in the title of the side and one individual side, which can be downloaded or be used as Bookmark in the Browser.
I will discuss this using the discussion tab of the wiki page ;-)
I wrote my reply on this page: http://www.ghisler.ch/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:Wincmd.ini
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As far as I know discussions about the wiki are allowed here too. Furthermore the discussion tabs on every page are meant to discus the page the tab is on.
I fully agree with this. General discussions about the Wiki should be made here in the forum, discussions about the content of a specific article on that article's discussion tab.
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ghisler(Author) wrote: I fully agree with this. General discussions about the Wiki should be made here in the forum, discussions about the content of a specific article on that article's discussion tab.
I further organized the English wiki and introduced categories for policies, guidelines, discussions and projects. See TotalcmdWiki:About.
Maybe a guideline could be to put general discussions about the wiki in the wiki discussions category and place a notification on the forum when the discussion is started.


2ghisler(Author): You recently updated MediaWiki. Please enable the following wiki email notification options introduced in MediaWiki 1.5.

$wgEnotifUserTalk - Set to true to allow e-mail notification for the own user_talk page. The option is now shown in user preferences and users can opt-in to receive one e-mail when someone else changes the user_talk page.

$wgEnotifWatchlist - Set to true to allow e-mail notification for watched pages. The option is now shown in user preferences and users can opt-in to receive one e-mail when someone else changes a page they are watching.



BTW. Introduced in MediaWiki 1.10 is $wgUsersNotifiedOnAllChanges - Array of usernames who will be sent a notification email for every change which occurs on a wiki.
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white wrote: 2ghisler(Author): You recently updated MediaWiki. Please enable the following wiki email notification options introduced in MediaWiki 1.5.

$wgEnotifUserTalk - Set to true to allow e-mail notification for the own user_talk page. The option is now shown in user preferences and users can opt-in to receive one e-mail when someone else changes the user_talk page.

$wgEnotifWatchlist - Set to true to allow e-mail notification for watched pages. The option is now shown in user preferences and users can opt-in to receive one e-mail when someone else changes a page they are watching.
You might also want to set $wgEnotifFromEditor to true.

Set to true sets the From: address of e-mail notification from the Page editor e-mail address, otherwise, the e-mail notification appears to be sent from the wiki server administration address ($wgEmergencyContact).

If the user has not opted-in to e-mail notification then $wgEmergencyContact will be used.
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Since anonymous users cannot edit their user page or talk page, I suggest to remove these user links by setting $wgShowIPinHeader to false.
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Currently I don't plan to enable e-mail notifications, they are already causing me too many problems in the forum. :(
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