Inplace Rename by Fast Click...?

[Balderstrom]

Note, I've disabled AHK in this instance.

This may just be my imagination, but I thought inplace rename by clicking on a file used to require a "slow click".
I seem to be able to trigger an inplace file rename 100% of the time now, if the cursor is already on the file... even a rapid single click will cause inplace rename to trigger.

Was this changed recently? Or just something I haven't noticed?

[StatusQuo]

It's like that for a while (at least 7.04a) and can be disabled by

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InplaceRename=0

P.S.: Explorer does the same here in XP.

[Boofo]

Note, I've disabled AHK in this instance.

This may just be my imagination, but I thought inplace rename by clicking on a file used to require a "slow click".
I seem to be able to trigger an inplace file rename 100% of the time now, if the cursor is already on the file... even a rapid single click will cause inplace rename to trigger.

Was this changed recently? Or just something I haven't noticed?

It used to require a slow click. I'm not sure when it changed. I use it frequently.

[StatusQuo]

It used to require a slow click. I'm not sure when it changed. I use it frequently.

I can't see a change here since 1997 (TC 3.03; XP SP3, tested with fresh INI).
Tested 7.50, 7.04a and some versions down to 3.03. InPlaceRename seems to not exist in older versions like 2.11.

Maybe you overlooked this?

if the cursor is already on the file...

[Balderstrom]

@StatusQuo, it must be something I haven't noticed, or a windows specific (HIPS) change ((incl. mouse driver)) that you wouldn't be able to tell from merely looking at different 3rd party application software.

I recall I used to try inplace rename from a slow-click on a file (which included the initial selection of said file) -- of which I was generally 50-75% successful in triggering inplace rename.
What I see now, foolishly perhaps, if you click on a file & wait a brief moment (to avoid double-click detection) then you can trigger inplace rename with a rapid click, on the same file, in both explorer and TC 100% of the time.

Note: I've been trying to "break" my left-click Sticky Select (AHK mod) by clicking in all kinds of different ways that I wouldn't of normally done before... of which all I can see are a couple quirks and no inherent problems as such.

[Boofo]

2StatusQuo,

I would have sworn I had to do a slow click to get it to work before. I never noticed it could happen with a fast click until Balderstrom mentioned it.

[ghisler(Author)]

I cannot get the rename box with a fast click, sorry. Maybe your double click speed is set too short in the control panel?

[Balderstrom]

@Ghisler, no DoubleClick detection is right in the middle.
Select File. Pause for a moment. Select File again (Quick Click) = inplace rename.

It's actually a good thing, its hard to consistently get inplace rename with a slow click. It doesn't appear to work the same way if you use NC mode and select file with Right-click, and then quick click left. If you select with right, you need to Left-click,Pause,Left-click...

[StatusQuo]

I cannot get the rename box with a fast click, sorry. Maybe your double click speed is set too short in the control panel?

The time doesn't matter, even a single click is enough here for 100% reproducibility.
But changing the cursor position in any way is required after switching to TC:

- start TC (fresh INI) or switch to it from another app
- press cursor down once (or move the cursor in any other way)
- wait as long as you like (tested about 60 seconds)
- do one short left-click on the file or dir the cursor is on

Does maybe also Explorer work different on your system, so this may change the behaviour in TC, too?

P.S.: XP SP3; TC left or right button select mode doesn't matter.

[karlchen]

@Ghisler, no DoubleClick detection is right in the middle.
Select File. Pause for a moment. Select File again (Quick Click) = inplace rename.

It's actually a good thing, its hard to consistently get inplace rename with a slow click. It doesn't appear to work the same way if you use NC mode and select file with Right-click, and then quick click left. If you select with right, you need to Left-click,Pause,Left-click...

Behaviour confirmed here.

Double click detection is in the middle here, too.
T.C. selects using the right mouse button (NC mode)

If a left-click on a filename, wait for a few seconds, left-click on the same filename, I am in inplace-rename mode.

Total Commander 7.50 Final (9.9.2009)
Windows Vista Home Premium, 32bit

Kind regards,
Karl

[ghisler(Author)]

Actually TC starts to rename when you click on a file which already had the focus (=was the current file before). There is no need to click on it twice.

[StatusQuo]

There is no need to click on it twice.

Yes - except after switching to another window and then back to TC (Alt+Tab), then the first click does nothing.

[karlchen]

Actually TC starts to rename when you click on a file which already had the focus (=was the current file before). There is no need to click on it twice.

Oh, I see. And I had assumed it had to be a single loooong left-click. Typical newbie mistake.

Karl

[ghisler(Author)]

Actually I'm trying to mimic the Explorer here: Even in Explorer you can scroll with the keyboard (arrow keys) to a file and then click ONCE on it to rename it.

[Balderstrom]

Well I wasn't precluding using arrow keys to select a file...
I just almost never select files with the keyboard, my mouse is pretty much tripped out, with buttons for:
Delete, Shift, Ctrl... thus I also have:
Shift+ScrollWheel = SEND Up|Down Arrow
Ctrl+ScrollWheel = PgUp|PgDn

Now I've enabled NC mode, and made Ctrl+LeftClick = RightClick among a number of other small fixes, like ctrl+LeftClick on [..] = unselect all.