renaming or moving sometimes works only at 2nd try

[mael]

hi there
i have a problem:
sometimes when i want to move a file to another folder on the same partition, instead of moving the file, TC copies it, but if i try it again, it works (it doesn't matter, if the operation is invoked with F6 or with the mouse+SHIFT)
the same situation with renaming files (bound to F2):
at first, it says: Error: Cannot read <filename> but the second try works fine

i *think* the problem occured only with files, which have the size of a CD or are bigger than that
and if i remember this right, the problem didn't show up in the previous version 6.52, but i didn't try to downgrade

i just tried it with a new wincmd.ini, still the same problem

TC 6.53
WatchDir=11 but i tried it with WatchDir switched off, too.
many plugins (which were installed some months ago)
WinMCE2005(=XP) SP2

any ideas?

[frenky]

I have a same behavior sometimes.
Maybe TC is checking first if file is locked that copy is performed instead of move?

I guess rename fails also due to the file locking by some 3. process? AV?

Edit
To be clear, I doubt this is a bug in TC

[Clo]

2frenky
2mael

Hello !
- Not sure, but you could try to disable the free-space checking to copy so big files, in <wincmd.ini> add or change :

[Configuration]
SizeCheck=0
* 1 : Check if there is enough disk space on target before copying

Maybe this could help…

 Kind regards,
Claude
Clo

[mael]

didn't change anything
but thanks for the suggestion

[mael]

I have a same behavior sometimes.
Maybe TC is checking first if file is locked that copy is performed instead of move?

I guess rename fails also due to the file locking by some 3. process? AV?

Edit
To be clear, I doubt this is a bug in TC

the file isn't locked and the filetype and size doesn't matter either

i just tried it with windows explorer (uuhhhh ) and the problem seems to be there too...

disableing the anti-virus scanner doesn't change anything

any other ideas? (even if it's not a bug in TC...)

[Sheepdog]

Try Unlocker to find out who locks the file.

sheepdog

[mael]

it says, that there's no open handle on this file...

[ghisler(Author)]

Try unlocker with a big file WHILE the file is being copied. It seems that the file gets locked just when the copying starts.

[mael]

in this case only TC is listed

[ghisler(Author)]

Well, it could be
- that the loading of the file icon takes a very long time, or
- a virus scanner running in the context of TC scanning the file

[mael]

were there any recent changes in TC regarding these two things?

[ghisler(Author)]

No, not that i'm aware off. Hove you tried to temporarily turn off the icons?

[mael]

turning off the icons didn't help either

[ghisler(Author)]

The last thing I can recommend is that you run filemon from www.sysinternals.com to find out whether any other process or driver is accessing the file when you get this error.

[djet]

Almost the same problems.
1. Sometimes renaming silently fails: I press F2, rename the file, press Enter, but the filename is left the same w/o any message.
2. Sometimes TC fails to detect if the source and destination volumes are the same and launches a regular Copy+Delete operation. For example, if I move file from E: volume to a junction point that leads to the same volume (D:\Video --> E:\Video) TC launches a Copy+Delete, not Move operation.