You really understood the essence of the Unified Command system.Startermenu, Total Commander Main menu, why to seperate it?
Someday TC Main menu could show mixed entrys and commands inside it.
TC 7 request: Show icons in menus
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For your Information:Stance wrote:Startermenu, Total Commander Main menu, why to seperate it?
Someday TC Main menu could show mixed entrys and commands inside it.
This day has been the 18 February 2003, the release date of TC 5.51.
Since then you could use the cm_usermenuXX commands within the main menu. Or the Codenumbers 701,702...
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So once again, let's break the differences between main and starter menu and have one single kind of menu with all possibilities.
You're right, but this is quite uncomfortable as therefore you must refer to an existing starter menu entry and so you'll always have a redundant menu entry if you want to start an app from within the main menu. Needless to mention what happens if you change sth in the starter menu...Since then you could use the cm_usermenuXX commands within the main menu
So once again, let's break the differences between main and starter menu and have one single kind of menu with all possibilities.
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Whoa, who would have thought a casual remark like 'I beg to disagree' would have sparked such a bunfight? My apologies for inadvertently starting the furore. For the record, I share Flint's assertion:
As for majikinetor's ill-humoured aggressive style, I'm sure you all have your own opinions. Perhaps in an earlier time his kind upheld the maxim 'The earth is flat' with equal ferocity. Personally, I should really hate being in a courtroom with a sneering, self-certain presiding judge who dismissed all other world-views but his own due to their 'wrong axioms'.
So enuf is enuf, as Homer Simpson would say. It's turning chilly here and I'm off to stoke the fireplace with a spare axiom or two.
Now, where did I put that 'Ignore' plugin...........
and agree with icfu's comment that contention is clearly futile owing to entrenched views. His remarks about right-brain left-brain congruence and gender could open up a whole new can of worms though, so we'd better not go there.Nobody suggested to replace text in menus with the icons. The suggestion was to supplement the text with them. So, what's the problem?
As for majikinetor's ill-humoured aggressive style, I'm sure you all have your own opinions. Perhaps in an earlier time his kind upheld the maxim 'The earth is flat' with equal ferocity. Personally, I should really hate being in a courtroom with a sneering, self-certain presiding judge who dismissed all other world-views but his own due to their 'wrong axioms'.
So enuf is enuf, as Homer Simpson would say. It's turning chilly here and I'm off to stoke the fireplace with a spare axiom or two.
Now, where did I put that 'Ignore' plugin...........
Okay, okay, your right. But I bet you all know that I do support the Unified Command SystemStickyNomad wrote:You're right, but this is quite uncomfortable as therefore you must refer to an existing starter menu entry and so you'll always have a redundant menu entry if you want to start an app from within the main menu. Needless to mention what happens if you change sth in the starter menu...
So once again, let's break the differences between main and starter menu and have one single kind of menu with all possibilities.
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What problems did you encounter with them?cannot recommend using the in-built support for icons in menus in newer Delphi versions. It's quite inflexible and error-prone. The bottom line is doing it from scratch will save you time. That's just my opinion.
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2. Problems with XP styles in some cases.
3. Delphi menus doesn't look 100% like standard menus.
This problems occured in Delphi 5 or 6. Maybe they have been fixed in the meantime.
1. Reading icons from delphi resources resulted in crap where icons should be in some cases.What problems did you encounter with them?
2. Problems with XP styles in some cases.
3. Delphi menus doesn't look 100% like standard menus.
This problems occured in Delphi 5 or 6. Maybe they have been fixed in the meantime.
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Another disadvantage of both the Delphi menus and using ownerdrawn menus is that they don't support XP themes and adding this support is not really easy. A toolbar supporting XP styles below a menu which doesn't looks quite irritating.
The following programs support XP styles:
Internet Explorer uses menus based on toolbars:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en-us/shellcc/platform/commctls/faq/iemenubar.asp
Mozilla Firefox and Opera are using uses completely new controls.
Another interesting control in this context are the rebar controls which server as a container for toolbars and other controls:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/shellcc/platform/commctls/rebar/rebar.asp
Another disadvantage of both the Delphi menus and using ownerdrawn menus is that they don't support XP themes and adding this support is not really easy. A toolbar supporting XP styles below a menu which doesn't looks quite irritating.
The following programs support XP styles:
Internet Explorer uses menus based on toolbars:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en-us/shellcc/platform/commctls/faq/iemenubar.asp
Mozilla Firefox and Opera are using uses completely new controls.
Another interesting control in this context are the rebar controls which server as a container for toolbars and other controls:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/shellcc/platform/commctls/rebar/rebar.asp
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