Separate QV for small screens, Always on top for Lister

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Separate QV for small screens, Always on top for Lister

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Currently with Ctrl+Shift+Q TC launches Separate Quick View window in background near TC window. This feature is fine for large/highdpi screens, but completely useless on small/lowdpi screens where TC window iteslf takes all screen space.

By email I requested "Always on top" feature for Lister as an part of idea to adapt "Separate Quick View" (Ctrl+Shift+Q) for small screens (so separate QV/Lister window would be on top of TC while user could switch the files in TC panels.)

Christian said he doesn't really see advantages of this possible feature for small screens over currently implemented feature: opening Lister with Shift+F3 and navigation between files using N and P keys in that Lister window.

So I'm posting this suggestion here to let other users say whether my idea worth implementation.

BTW it's possible to vote for Always on top Lister feature suggestion here:
http://ghisler.ch/board/viewtopic.php?t=878
even if you'd just like too see this feature in Lister but don't like or care of Separate Quick View improvements.
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Re: Separate QV for small screens, Always on top for Lister

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This topic may be merged with the one created earlier: viewtopic.php?f=14&t=46502
ghisler(Author) wrote: 2016-11-21, 10:53 UTCCtrl+Shift+Q is meant for people with 2 screens or wide screens
Always on Top feature would make it useful also for people with 1 small screen. Many other viewers and editors, including IrfanView which may be used by Lister, have built-in Always on top feature, so why not add it to Lister called by Ctrl+Shift+Q?
Dalai wrote: 2016-11-21, 18:52 UTCI don't really see the advantage of positioning the separate QuickView window on top of TC when the simple (integrated) QuickView already does the job. Such thoughts would've crossed my mind when I would have had to implement it, maybe Ghisler had similar ones.
For example, you could open some picture with Ctrl+Shift+Q, place it somewhere over TC main menu and toolbars, and browse opposite panel with regular QuickView opened to compare pictures from it with one opened before via Ctrl+Shift+Q.
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Re: Separate QV for small screens, Always on top for Lister

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DrShark wrote: 2019-11-16, 08:23 UTCFor example, you could open some picture with Ctrl+Shift+Q, place it somewhere over TC main menu and toolbars, and browse opposite panel with regular QuickView opened to compare pictures from it with one opened before via Ctrl+Shift+Q.
But where's the advantage to use Separate QuickView over the already existing Lister? They're both separate windows. I don't get it.

And, as I said: Until Ghisler decides to add such feature, you can use a 3rd-party tool. I even wrote my own script which toggles the on-top attribute of the currently active window with a keyboard shortcut (Ctrl+Shift+Space); this works with any window of any application (which doesn't have such feature on its own). If anyone is interested in the script, just let me know.

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Dalai wrote: 2019-11-16, 14:56 UTCBut where's the advantage to use Separate QuickView over the already existing Lister? They're both separate windows. I don't get it.
In theory it has advantages: Lister can switch many files only if they are selected in a list (to enable such navigation between selected files, Lister must be opened with Shift+F3) with N and P keys (if plugins won't catch them). Also, in some cases it may be advantage to have different saved windows positions for Lister and Separate QuickView.

Unfortunately, currently Separate QuickView is panel-independent, which means it follows the file under cursor even after changing a panel. The same time, it is not independent from regular QuickView: both are closed by Ctrl+Q. Both factors mean there is no way to use the independent QuickView and Separate QuickView windows for different files. It would be possible if Separate Quick View could open independent Separate QuickView window for each panel, and such windows would be closed only with Ctrl+Shift+Q, while Ctrl+Q would only open and close reqular QuickView.
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I support this request. Separate Quick view is unusable on small single screens as it is now.
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Separate quick view was added especially for people with 2 screens (or a very wide screen like cinema display). Users with normal screens should use normal Ctrl+Q.
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ghisler(Author) wrote: 2019-11-18, 14:52 UTC Separate quick view was added especially for people with 2 screens (or a very wide screen like cinema display). Users with normal screens should use normal Ctrl+Q.
Yes, you made it for 2 screens or 1 big screen, but you can enhance it so it will be useful on 1 small screen. Separate QuickView has some differences compared to Lister (opened either using F3 or Shift+F3) and regular QuickView, so it's not really fair to consider and suggest them as full alternatives to Separate QuickView for 1 small screen.
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Dalai wrote: 2019-11-16, 14:56 UTCUntil Ghisler decides to add such feature, you can use a 3rd-party tool. I even wrote my own script which toggles the on-top attribute of the currently active window with a keyboard shortcut (Ctrl+Shift+Space); this works with any window of any application (which doesn't have such feature on its own). If anyone is interested in the script, just let me know.
There is an "Always On Top" tool (compiled AHK script) which changes on-top window state with Ctrl+Space. But the advantage of Total Commander's own feature for making its windows on top would be a possibility to use it in environments where it's not possible to use other 3rd party software.
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Support and bump for v11.
Simple option "Always on top" for any Lister window (not only QV).
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