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Re: CHM Help for dark mode

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Would you mind if I'll add a link to your dark help to list of unreleased plugins and addons wiki page?
No, please do :-)
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Re: CHM Help for dark mode

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Please consider adding a wincmd.ini parameter to set a path to help file used in dark mode (e.g. DarkModeHelp=).
Instead, I could also just look for a help file with a specific name, e.g.
normalname_dark.chm
or so. What do you think?
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Re: CHM Help for dark mode

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ghisler(Author) wrote: 2020-02-07, 17:14 UTCInstead, I could also just look for a help file with a specific name, e.g. normalname_dark.chm or so. What do you think?
That's what I suggested in earlier post, and it's better because it will allow to auto use dark help translated to TC language, if such one is installed.

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I've added it to table, feel free to correct description if something is wrong there.
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Re: CHM Help for dark mode

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Usher wrote: 2020-02-06, 12:38 UTC 2petermad
It's dark help for normal mode. All the screenshots should be changed - replaced with TC screenshots in native Windows 10 dark mode, I think.
I have now done it anyway - shanged the screenshots - can be downloaded here: https://madsenworld.dk/tcmd/totalcmd950darkhelp2.zip

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Re: CHM Help for dark mode

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Looks pretty good, but colors seem to be non-default (or they are degraded by limited GIF 256-color palette). Two gifs aren't in English: SCHHEAD3.gif (Alt+F7 Find Files: Advanced) and SYSINFO.gif (Commands -> System Information).
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Re: CHM Help for dark mode

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colors seem to be non-default (or they are degraded by limited GIF 256-color palette)
That is right - I have now fixed the colors for background, text and lines, so it is the same in all images.
Two gifs aren't in English: SCHHEAD3.gif (Alt+F7 Find Files: Advanced) and SYSINFO.gif (Commands -> System Information).
That should also be fixed now.

And I have set the background color of the help itself to the same as TC's default background color (it was changed in beta 6 from RGB=16,16,16 to RGB=32,32,32 - and I never updated that in the dark help) .

Please download: https://madsenworld.dk/tcmd/totalcmd950darkhelp3.zip
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Re: CHM Help for dark mode

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Much better now, only table of content in dark2.chm has still black background…
And there is missing your name in Credits for correcting English help ;-)
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Re: CHM Help for dark mode

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table of content in dark2.chm has still black background…
That's the idea - I cannot make black background at the menu items (windows bug), so personally I don't think it looks so good, thats why I provide 2 verisons - this is the only difference between the two versions.
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Re: CHM Help for dark mode

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petermad wrote: 2020-02-08, 10:01 UTC
table of content in dark2.chm has still black background…
That's the idea
I think Usher meant the problem is that it's black instead of RGB:32,32,32.
Edit: "Mark" menu on dark picture in help doesn't seem to be clickable.
Edit 2: There is a difference in System information dialog dark and normal pictures: dark one have Hardware tab active, while normal picture doesn't have active tab - which is more correct since they're all clickable in help. The same applies to some other dark pictures with tabs, like one of Find Files dialog.
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Re: CHM Help for dark mode

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I think Usher meant the problem is that it's black instead of RGB:32,32,32.
Ahh, I see - this is corrected now.
Edit: "Mark" menu on dark picture in help doesn't seem to be clickable.
Yes, I accidently deleted a digit in the image map - corrected.
Edit 2: There is a difference in System information dialog dark and normal pictures: dark one have Hardware tab active, while normal picture doesn't have active
Well, that if how the System information dialog opens up in Dark mode - it is not possible to get a screenshot with all Tabs disabled.

Actually it is the same in Normal mode - consider that the screenshots in the official help are VERY old - and I think the image in the official help is a mockup, because here is how it looks back in TC 3.03: https://madsenworld.dk/tcmd/tc303sysinfo.png - also here Hardware tab is active. And here is how the 3.03 help looks: https://madsenworld.dk/tcmd/tc303sysinfohelp.png (TC 3.03 is from 1997!)

It doesn't make sense if there is not an active tab - if not then the dialog should start with a blank tab.

Please download new version: https://madsenworld.dk/tcmd/totalcmd950darkhelp4.zip
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Re: CHM Help for dark mode

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petermad wrote: 2020-02-08, 12:21 UTC
I think Usher meant the problem is that it's black instead of RGB:32,32,32.
Ahh, I see - this is corrected now.
Great.
petermad wrote: 2020-02-08, 12:21 UTCI think the image in the official help is a mockup,
Sure. Otherwise any tab of SysInfo should have its own picture. Maybe it would be a better solution?
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Re: CHM Help for dark mode

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petermad wrote: 2020-02-08, 12:21 UTCI think the image in the official help is a mockup, because here is how it looks back in TC 3.03: https://madsenworld.dk/tcmd/tc303sysinfo.png
Yes, it's mockup, which should be easier to make now using background tabs of main window file panel by giving them names of tabs used in TC dialogs.
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Re: CHM Help for dark mode

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I only see little reason to change the "System Info" image and the "Search" image - now they show what the user actually see when opening those dialogs. On the other hand the user can click on the "tabs" in the image and the help will change, but the first item stays checked - so...?

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OK - I changed it to non-selected tabs in both images - please download: https://madsenworld.dk/tcmd/totalcmd950darkhelp5.zip
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Re: CHM Help for dark mode

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petermad wrote: 2020-02-08, 16:46 UTCI changed it to non-selected tabs in both images - please download
Looks good, thanks. I added an anchor to wiki page to acces an entry of dark chm help directly: List_of_unreleased_plugins#engdarkchmhelp, so in future you can update direct download link(s) there and post above link here as download source.
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Re: CHM Help for dark mode

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Thanks - I have updated the wiki with and update of the version with original images, now with correct background color. ( https://madsenworld.dk/tcmd/totalcmd950darkhelp1.zip )
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