[9.51rc5] 'show [] around directories' unchecks when I check 'append \'

The behaviour described in the bug report is either by design, or would be far too complex/time-consuming to be changed

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[9.51rc5] 'show [] around directories' unchecks when I check 'append \'

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There is a new option to append backslashes to folder names in panels. However its behaviour is not consistent:
1. When I enable appending '\', displaying '[]' is unchecked. So it looks like I can't enable both (strange, there is no sense in such limitation).
2. When I enable displaying '[]', appending '\' is not unchecked. So I can enable both (as expected logically and from two checkboxes).

Also, when I enable both '\' and '[]', TC adds extra space between '\' and ']', so names look like "[Documents\ ]". Please fix it, looks weird.
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Re: [9.51rc5] 'show [] around directories' unchecks when I check 'append \'

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Well, it's mentioned somewhere that it's by design.

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Re: [9.51rc5] 'show [] around directories' unchecks when I check 'append \'

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It's indeed disabled intentionally because it looks so weird. But I keep a way to still enable both for people who absolutely want it.
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Re: [9.51rc5] 'show [] around directories' unchecks when I check 'append \'

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It looks quite strange and buggy that different click sequences produce different results. If you remove spaces between backslash and bracket, it will look better. Anyway, there is no reason to restrict user from setting both, he/she should be able to set desired configuration.
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Well, if I could decide on my own, I would just disallow both options together. But it was requested, so I use this compromise, so most people don't get exposed to this atrocity.
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Re: [9.51rc5] 'show [] around directories' unchecks when I check 'append \'

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I really think that such inconsistency should be treated rather as a bug than as a feature. Most users will just set desire set of options and close the dialog, even if you won't help them to uncheck first option after checking second one. But these two options don't conflict so should be allowed to set together w/o any limitations.
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Re: [9.51rc5] 'show [] around directories' unchecks when I check 'append \'

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ghisler(Author) wrote: 2020-03-12, 10:55 UTC Well, if I could decide on my own, I would just disallow both options together. But it was requested, so I use this compromise, so most people don't get exposed to this atrocity.
While i understand and share the dislike for [] together with \, i don't agree with making the UX of the configuration dialog behave inconsistently as a response or expression of this dislike.

In my opinion, just decouple those two options and keep them as two individual and independent checkboxes. People intuitively understand how to use those. People can easily turn on either or both options, and if they find themselves turned off (ha!) by the directory name display, they intuitively know how to get rid of this atrocity again.

The way it is now makes for a rather confusing user experience, which probably leaves a worse impression than a (user-enabled) directory name with both [] and \ ever could. Just my 2c, of course... :)
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Re: [9.51rc5] 'show [] around directories' unchecks when I check 'append \'

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elgonzo wrote: 2020-03-12, 17:46 UTC
ghisler(Author) wrote: 2020-03-12, 10:55 UTC Well, if I could decide on my own, I would just disallow both options together. But it was requested, so I use this compromise, so most people don't get exposed to this atrocity.
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The way it is now makes for a rather confusing user experience, which probably leaves a worse impression than a (user-enabled) directory name with both [] and \ ever could. Just my 2c, of course... :)
Fully agree.
The 2 boxes in the UI should be independend.
Btw. I would never use any of this options for displaying dirs.
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