Does Ctrl-L use Everything?

[Hacker]

Hi,
TC 9.50b8 x64, Windows 10 v1903 x64.
I select four dirs in the root of a drive, press Ctrl-L to calculate the occupied space. I can hear the HDD start working away and it takes TC 1 minute 39 seconds to show the result. Everything does have the sizes of those dirs indexed but TC does not seem to use it. Why?
Configuration - Options - Operation - Calculate space occupied by subdirectories - 'Everything' is enabled.
Configuration - Options - Ignore List is disabled.
Perhaps TC does not detect Everything correctly on my PC? How do I check? Everything runs as a service.

Secondary question - should it take so long even if Everything is not used? 4 dirs, 40 920 subdirs, 612 169 files -> 1 minute 39 seconds.

TIA
Roman

[Hacker]

A user on the Slovak / Czech forum reports that for counting the size of 6692 folders it takes:
TC 32-bit - 55 seconds
TC 64-bit - 6 minutes 36 seconds
Double Commander - 3 seconds

No info about caching or ignore list or the like, though.

Roman

[ghisler(Author)]

Ctrl+L doesn't use Everything. Alt+Shift+Enter does.

[tuska]

2Hacker
With these settings, you are on the safe side - not only on this topic:
☑ Start Everything on system startup
☐ Run as administrator
☑ Everything Service

☑ Index file size
☑ Index folder size

Personally, I have currently turned on all but these options under "Indexes":
☐ Multi-user database filename
☐ Compress database

For about 100,000 files in about 10,000 subdirectories after ALT+Shift+Enter
the result of the file sizes appears almost instantaneously.
Even when selecting folders with the spacebar, the file size is displayed immediately.

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Windows 10 Pro (x64) Version 1909 (OS build 18363.476)
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770 CPU @ 3.4OGHz, 16 GB RAM
TC 9.50ß8 x64/x86 | Everything - Version 1.4.1.958 (x64)
☑ 'Everything' | Search queries: TC <=> 'Everything'

[Hacker]

Christian,
I see. Could Ctrl-L also make use of Everything, please?
Also, the question about slowness remains, especially in light of what user TesterTC wrote:

TC 32-bit - 55 seconds
TC 64-bit - 6 minutes 36 seconds
Double Commander - 3 seconds

Tuska,
Thank you, I have it set up in a similar way.

Roman

[tuska]

Could Ctrl-L also make use of Everything, please?

I would like to keep CTRL+L in its current form (TC method).

Also, the question about slowness remains,...

- For me, it looks like this that this user would not use 'Everything' at all (he didn't mention it...).

- Usually problems arise when users have checked "Run as administrator" and "Everything Service".
    Which settings does the user have?
    See also: Installing Everything
- Was the drive indexed in 'Everything'? E.g. Indexes - NTFS - Settings for X: (X:) ... ☑ Include in database

[tuska]

Also, the question about slowness remains,...

That's strange.

With cm_CountDirContent TC 9.50ß8 x64 and TC 9.22a x64 requires here with me for approx. 10,000 directories
on drive D: and drive I: (no SSD!), namely
- Drive D: Total space occupied: 304 634 659 311 bytes in 95 528 file(s), in 10 089 directories (283G)
- Drive I: Total space occupied: 304 634 624 183 bytes in 95 525 file(s), in 10 087 directories (283G)
only about 15 seconds each! (After PC restart)

[Hacker]

tuska,

I would like to keep CTRL+L in its current form (TC method).

What is the advantage?

Roman

[tuska]

tuska,

I would like to keep CTRL+L in its current form (TC method).

What is the advantage?

Roman

- I have a comparison between TC and 'Everything' regarding space consumption
- I am shown the number of files and subdirectories
- The required space on the destination drive is also displayed

If this data can also be displayed with CTRL+L under using of 'Everything', then I support this proposal.

[Hacker]

tuska,
Well, you can always turn off using Everything, in that case.

Roman

[NotNull]

Use Alt-Enter?
(minus the disk statistics)

[tuska]

2Hacker
I would suggest
- that one leave Ctrl+L as it is and
- a new shortcut for using TC and 'Everything', e.g. CTRL+SHIFT+L

2NotNull
Unfortunately, the shortcut ALT+ENTER is already taken for "Show property sheet." (See Help menu - Keyboard)

[Hacker]

tuska,

the shortcut ALT+ENTER is already taken for "Show property sheet."

I guess that was the point - to use Alt-Enter instead of Ctrl-L if one does not want to use Everything for space calculation.

Roman

[petermad]

TC 32-bit - 55 seconds
TC 64-bit - 6 minutes 36 seconds
Double Commander - 3 seconds

The difference could be due to caching.

Here are tests from 3 drives of mine:
C: Total space occupied: 93.137.268.978 bytes in 204.143 file(s), in 21.830 directories (NTFS)
65 seconds first time after reboot, 7 seconds second time (cached)

G: Total space occupied: 352.957.204.408 bytes in 195.437 file(s), in 14.306 directories (NTFS)
56 seconds first time after reboot, 5 seconds second time (cached)

F: Total space occupied: 20.360.196.433 bytes in 86.154 file(s), in 6.793 directories (FAT32)
18 seconds first time after reboot, 2 seconds second time

Tested with TC 9.5b8 x64 on a Windows 7 PC with an ordinary SCSI harddisk, and an Intel i7-4790, 3.60GHz processor.

The number of directories on my drive F: corresponds to TesterTC's - and the speed after caching is a little better than what TesterTC gets for Double Commander - so I think there is a big chance that TesterTC tested in Double Commander AFTER he tested in TC.

32bit TC shows similar speed results - and so does Windows Explorer using Alt+Enter

[NotNull]

tuska,

the shortcut ALT+ENTER is already taken for "Show property sheet."

I guess that was the point - to use Alt-Enter instead of Ctrl-L if one does not want to use Everything for space calculation.

Good guess
(the General tab of that property sheet shows for a folder: Size, Size on disk, Number of folders, Number of files )