Configuration - Options - Display: New option "Append \"

The behaviour described in the bug report is either by design, or would be far too complex/time-consuming to be changed

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Configuration - Options - Display: New option "Append \"

Post by *Stefan2 » 2019-10-16, 19:09 UTC

To discuss:


Check boxes
[_] Show brackets ____ [x] Append \

should be radio buttons
(_) Show brackets ____ (o) Append \

since that are alternative options, ... isn't it? :wink:





 
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Re: Configuration - Options - Display: New option "Append \"

Post by *ghisler(Author) » 2019-10-16, 19:34 UTC

Well, yes and no - there is a third option: Unchecking BOTH. You cannot do this with radio buttons. :(
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Re: Configuration - Options - Display: New option "Append \"

Post by *Stefan2 » 2019-10-16, 19:43 UTC

Oh, correct :oops: , sorry, solved.





 
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Re: Configuration - Options - Display: New option "Append \"

Post by *umbra » 2019-10-16, 20:19 UTC

One could think about additional ways of distinguishing folders, e.g. using a bold font for their names. And than this could be turned into a combobox with options "Show like files", "Surround by square brackets", "Append '\'", "Use bold font", ...
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Re: Configuration - Options - Display: New option "Append \"

Post by *ghisler(Author) » 2019-10-17, 08:22 UTC

Yes, but the problem is that users could then want both bold font AND appended backslash.
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Re: Configuration - Options - Display: New option "Append \"

Post by *umbra » 2019-10-18, 11:46 UTC

Just like they might want to have both brackets and the backslash :)
You decided that you wanted to provide mutually exclusive options so I suggested a way to make it more obvious. If you decided to allow also their combination, I'd be fine with that too. And in that case, checkboxes would make more sense.

Anyway, I'm not pushing for changing it. This type of UI behavior is common in TC so users sooner or later get used to it.
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I guess it is a pet peeve of mine, but I just really don't like misusing UI controls for what they obviously were not meant for. Like mutually exclusive checkboxes instead of radio buttons or comboboxes, scrollbars instead of spinners, combinations of buttons instead of splitbuttons, etc.
It's not what people expect and bug reports like this one just prove it. Plus it must be pretty time consuming to make sure, it looks reasonably good on different OS versions, themes, ...
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Re: Configuration - Options - Display: New option "Append \"

Post by *Dalai » 2019-10-18, 12:50 UTC

ghisler(Author) wrote:
2019-10-16, 19:34 UTC
Well, yes and no - there is a third option: Unchecking BOTH. You cannot do this with radio buttons. :(
Uh, why not?

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( ) None   (o) Show brackets    ( ) Append backslash
Yes, it's not the most space-saving method to show such options, but it's possible. When adding bold font, it gets ugly with radio buttons, I agree, but a drop-down menu (combobox) listing the various combinations could solve that.

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Re: Configuration - Options - Display: New option "Append \"

Post by *petermad » 2019-10-18, 13:25 UTC

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Well, yes and no - there is a third option: Unchecking BOTH.
It would be nice yo be able to also CHECK both - I would use that, but not the "Append \" option
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Re: Configuration - Options - Display: New option "Append \"

Post by *petermad » 2019-11-06, 23:31 UTC

05.11.19 Fixed: Added: Allow to check both "Show square brackets [] around directories" and "Append \" if the second one is checked first (DirBrackets=3 in wincmd.ini) (32/64)
Nice addition - thanks - but the implementation is a little confusing:

If "Show square brackets [] around directories" is enabled and "Append \" is disabled and I click "Append \" then "Show square brackets [] around directories" gets disabled - and I have to click "Show square brackets [] around directories" once again to enable both.

If on the other hand "Show square brackets [] around directories" is disbled and "Append \" is enabled and I click "Show square brackets [] around directories" - then "Append \" stays enabled.

The logical thing would be that both options can be toggled on and off without affecting the setting of the other option.
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Re: Configuration - Options - Display: New option "Append \"

Post by *ghisler(Author) » 2019-11-07, 09:08 UTC

I did this on purpose, because it looks really strange with both enabled.
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Re: Configuration - Options - Display: New option "Append \"

Post by *petermad » 2019-11-07, 12:26 UTC

But I think there is a risk that many users never realize that both options in fact can be turned on at the same time...
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Re: Configuration - Options - Display: New option "Append \"

Post by *MVV » 2019-11-13, 05:27 UTC

I personally detect folders by their icons, with no extra text around their names. :D

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Re: Configuration - Options - Display: New option "Append \"

Post by *Phred » 2019-11-14, 04:38 UTC

petermad wrote:
2019-11-07, 12:26 UTC
But I think there is a risk that many users never realize that both options in fact can be turned on at the same time...
Being a left-to-right reader, I'm one. [raises hand\]
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Re: Configuration - Options - Display: New option "Append \"

Post by *ghisler(Author) » 2019-11-14, 11:31 UTC

But I think there is a risk that many users never realize that both options in fact can be turned on at the same time...
That's actually my intention. :)
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Re: Configuration - Options - Display: New option "Append \"

Post by *petermad » 2019-11-14, 12:21 UTC

That's actually my intention. :)
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