can I add tag to a file, and the tag will be kept on cloud?

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can I add tag to a file, and the tag will be kept on cloud?

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I have thousands of albums, in order to sort them eaiser, I want to add three tags to each album folder, [author], [date] and [ranking]

I don't want to use some data-base management software, so I try to find a way to add tags to the album folder.

currently, I use "NTFS Descriptions" plugin to write the tags into NTFS file stream. it works well. even when I rename, copy, move the folder, the tags will not lost.
however, recently I found a problem, when I upload the folder to my dropbox or some other cloud-drive, the NTFS stream will not be kept, so my customized tags are lost.

my requirement is:
1. I can add some customized tags to files/folders.
2. the tags will not lost when I move/copy the files/folders.
3. the tags will not lost when I upload the files/folders to cloud.

anybody have experience in this problem?
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descript.ion description Ctrl+Z Plugin,TC,Comment,Value

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Try "descript.ion":

Press Ctrl+Z on a folder >>> Type in: [author], [date] and [ranking]


For all selected folders you can utilize "Files > Change Attributes"
>>> Plugin > TC > Comment > Value: [author], [date] and [ranking]


See the help
File > Edit comment

Allows to set or change a file comment stored in a file called descript.ion or files.bbs.
Comments can be displayed with Show - Comments (Ctrl+Shift+F2) within the file lists,
or by moving the mouse over a file name. For the latter, you need to enable Win32-style tips in Configuration - Display.

Next be sure to copy the "descript.ion" file, located in the same top folder as the so tagged folders, along with your album folders.


 
EDIT: changed 'file' to 'folder' to make it more clear for the asker
Last edited by Stefan2 on 2014-08-27, 12:04 UTC, edited 1 time in total.
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Thats Oldschool and again and again a good example for upgrade the MRT/MUT to edit tags. @ghisler
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matixx wrote:Thats Oldschool and again and again a good example for upgrade the MRT/MUT to edit tags. @ghisler
Whatever a solution in TC would be there will always be the need to store additional files together with the real files.
TC can't store anything in the files itself without loosing it after a move into the cloud.
And please don't say that the MRT/MUT should change the file names or other strange things.
So what is your genious idea for a cloud compatible tag feature ?
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I am not a genius but its quit simple to store Tags in files, TC do this , but in a very bad dialog. Thats all. Add Edit tags in MRT it´s not magic..

Horst.Epp wrote: TC can't store anything in the files itself without loosing it after a move into the cloud.
?? thats false. TC can store Tags in files, e.g. Artist to a *.mp3 and this information is for lifetime when i does it not change. Copy that of any cloud or storage --><information tag is present.

In this case it is a little bit difficult, i know. TE wants Tags for Folders. But descriptions are oldschool..i can only sort by ONE description, there is no way to have multiple words.
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Well for many file types there are solutions to store the data inside files - but not for all. Simple text files for example. What about these file types?
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matixx wrote:I am not a genius but its quit simple to store Tags in files, TC do this ....
You put on the same level file that embed tagging system (mp3, image, exe,...) and common file or folder. You also mix cloud based storage and ntfs streams that is linked to the support.
For now TC is focussed on file and for now there is no universal tagging mechanism. Tagged information/document is well suited for content management.
Instead of using file you should probably look for a web based content management system and not use any oldschool file system anymore.
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descript.ion looks like a possible way.
I did some test, when I move/rename/copy my files/folder, the descript.ion will changed automatically, that is good.

however, I don't know how to add multiple key word into the description, it there any method?

BTW: when I delete a file, the related description is not deleted, so after I create an empty file with the same file name, the previous description will exist, I guess it is a bug.
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Lefteous wrote:Well for many file types there are solutions to store the data inside files - but not for all. Simple text files for example. What about these file types?
Yes, there´s no solution.
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fallmq wrote: however, I don't know how to add multiple key word into the description, it there any method?
imo no.
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fallmq wrote:...however, I don't know how to add multiple key word into the description, it there any method?..
You can decide to have a separator to allows #tag1#tag2#tag3# with Search you can use tc.comment plugin to find all file that contain #myTag#.
but if you sort you sort with a user column you will not be able to have the file more than once...
With search you can find File containig tag #xx# and not #yy#

For search is well suitable but for renaming this is not as simple due to the ambiguity introduced
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matixx wrote:In this case it is a little bit difficult, i know. TE wants Tags for Folders. But descriptions are oldschool..i can only sort by ONE description, there is no way to have multiple words.
Wanting to tag folders rather than files makes things tricker, but one workaround could be to use NTFS junctions (Link Shell Extension is a great, free tool for managing these) to create aliases of the folders, using the junction names to incorporate tag data.

So a folder for the "Invisible Touch" album could have junctions labeled "Genesis - Invisible Touch" (author), "1986 - Invisible Touch" (date) and "5 - Invisible Touch" (rating). You'd need the album title in the junction names to ensure they stay unique, but by listing the tag data first you can sort on it as well as search by it, and you can have as many junctions (tags) as you want.

Since NTFS junctions are treated as folders at filesystem level, they should work with cloud storage. But any cloud storage application that's not junction-aware will likely upload your music multiple times as it will see each junction as a separate folder.
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