Add internal CD/DVD burning to TC? (FoxBurner SDK)

[Lefteous]

2ghisler(Author)

The FoxBurner SDK looks very interesting and reasonably priced, so I think about using it in Total Commander.

First I want to express that integrating a way to burn CDs would be a useful addition. But I really wonder that this seems to have such a high priority. It sounds as if you want to add this to 7.5. A couple of days you wrote in another thread:

If you wouldn't make so many suggestions which can be easily done with external tools or plugins, but limit them to really important things, then the chance would be higher that I could add them...

Burning CDs is a perfect example of a task that can be done using an external application. In my opinion you should really focus on more important things on the to do list.

[CEUM]

Burning CDs is a perfect example of a task that can be done using an external application.

Thats right, but it misses in the filemanagers.
External medias have to be handled by the filemanger too, you don't want use a external tool to create disks or sticks.
Some users don 't use cds or dvds very often, but I think most users do.
CEUM

[Elendacil]

The FoxBurner SDK looks very interesting and reasonably priced, so I think about using it in Total Commander. However, I couldn't write a plugin I would have to write some kind of internal support for it (but I could use the plugin interface for that). Has anyone tried these components yet? How large are the Foxburner DLLs? How difficult is it to implement?

I can't say I know how difficult something like that is to implement, but I can say I fully support the idea of integrating CD/DVD burning into Total Commander!

Sure, there are plugins for everything, but plugins create the so called Firefox Dilemma - not everyone wants to mess around with plugins to build a complete browser from a barebones base, instead, some people want to have it complete with all the features they need out of the box, and these people tend to choose Opera. Most people I know consider optical disc burning a very important part of a file manager.

[flo]

I support completly the possibility of adding a "built in" burner of CDs and DVDs in Total Commander. It would be very useful!!

Anyway i think like Lefteous,there are great tools only for burning, and if Total Commander can't reach this quality (because this implementation requires a lot of work) maybe is better to focus on other funcionalities, like:

• a built-in SFTP (if this is possible with http://www.ghisler.ch/board/viewtopic.php?t=14652)
  or new possibilities for the separete trees.

[byblo]

Integrating the sdk should not be so hard, but burning a cd isn't the same than "simply" copying files (see the ultimate ImgBurn software, take a tour on its options to understand what I mean).

I don't know what the sdk is offering exactly, but I think that TC should support unicode before starting this adventure.

Also, I don't get how I'll use TC when burning a cd when some plugins may crash it (which is normal). So, does it mean that I'll have to let TC alone during a burning process ?

For my part I prefer to still using an external burner, like the ultimate ImbBurn (which btw support a incredible list of parameter!;))

[Alextp]

IMHO This should be implemented via a plug-in. FS interface should be expanded for this, if needed...

[sas2000]

 

In my opinion you should really focus on more important things on the to do list.

I'm agree with you (starting with the >259 chars bug ), but maybe more users (specially newbies) will buy Tc if it integrates such feature, AFAIK Directory Opus doesn't record Cd/Dvd.
 

[JohnFredC]

It would be fantastic if cd/dvd burning was integrated into TC and offered the ~100% reliability for which TC is rightly famous..

But I suggest you proceed very carefully with this idea.

In my experience NO (0 %) burner software has been 100% reliable...

Do not integrate such functionality inside TC. Outside plug-in only. Release and support as a separate product that "works with" TC, but doesn't sully TC's reputation when the inevitable burn failures occur.

[theosdikaios]

The idea is fine.
But I wonder what's wrong with the both burner plugins Complex TC burner and CD/DVD Burning Plugin?

[sas2000]

 

The idea is fine.
But I wonder what's wrong with the both burner plugins Complex TC burner and CD/DVD Burning Plugin?

Complex is Shareware 15$, its author said on July 2006 that a new version will be released by autumn 2006 but it was not, it seems that he's more interested on Complex Evolution.
Another problem with Complex plugin is that it uses ASProtect

TcBurner is based on FoxBurner SDK but AFAIK there will be no further development.
 

[theosdikaios]

 Complex is Shareware 15$,  

IIRC Total Commander too.

 its author said on July 2006 that a new version will be released by autumn 2006 but it was not, it seems that he's more interested on Complex Evolution.

TcBurner is based on FoxBurner SDK but AFAIK there will be no further development. 

Yep, both projects seem to be come to their end but I can solve all my burning issues with e.g. ComplexCD. I miss nothing what I need for burning files. Therefore no further development is needed really.

[sas2000]

 

Therefore no further development is needed really.

If there's no further development, then we will not be able to use new formats (BlueRay/HD-DVD) on the future .
 

[majkinetor !]

Burning CDs is a perfect example of a task that can be done using an external application. In my opinion you should really focus on more important things on the to do list.

Totaly wrong! Although theoreticaly on place, in practice totaly wrong.

First, if that can be done, why it isn't done already, prorperly ?

Second, why everybody die to have this in TC?

Third, complexity of this project is not trivial. Many special cases, different technologies and theories are involved. Only the reliable solution, which obviously exists as FoxBurner SDK - which is developed and improved for years - can come as an option. So if the author implements this using SDK, which is too expensive for freeware & open source mortals, he can be sure that all bugs and updates and details will be handled by FoxBurner team.

Forth, File Managers are there to let people operate and manipulate files. Burning is the method of most popular media to write data on it. Not supporting most popular storing media, is the same as saying that you are not being serious.

Fifth, why don't we make poll on "more important things" together with this one so we can see what is really important.

[m^2]

Second, why everybody die to have this in TC?

AFAIK nobody died yet to have this in TC ( maybe I don't know about sb. ).
Everything I see here is 12 people enthusiastic about it.
Not few, but far from everybody.

[majkinetor !]

LOL
What about zillion posts about burning so far ?
Other then that, you have to work on your imagination