[TC9b10x64] "Show '!' on hidden/system" doesn't wo

The behaviour described in the bug report is either by design, or would be far too complex/time-consuming to be changed

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ghisler(Author) wrote:I guess that you don't have the option "Show default folder/file icons from Explorer" checked. In this case, the "!" option has almost no effect. This will be changed in beta 11.
I'm not sure if I got that. You mean that the "!" should only work when using the default Explorer icons? I really like the "!" feature, but I do not want to use the Explorer icons. In my case, it worked fine until beta 10. Starting with Beta 11 I don't see the "!" anymore, see screenshot.

So this is by purpose? Would be great if this would still work for my own folder icons again.

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I'm not sure if I got that. You mean that the "!" should only work when using the default Explorer icons?
No, you got i wrong - In beta11 the '!' works with all icons.
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petermad wrote:
I'm not sure if I got that. You mean that the "!" should only work when using the default Explorer icons?
No, you got i wrong - In beta11 the '!' works with all icons.

Thx! That's what I actually expected.

As I noticed, I mixed the TC versions in my previous screenshot. So this is the correct one:
Image: http://fs5.directupload.net/images/160826/hqjnqi5n.png

As you can see, it does not work anymore since Beta 11. At least for me.

Any idea what could be the problem?
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Confirm that it's fixed in TC9B11. Thanks! :)
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Could you give a link to the icon-ib you are using, for us to try!
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I go with SSc.
http://www.bilder-hochladen.net/files/big/lwdu-7-2fc6.png

OldDriveIcons=2
IconLib=%COMMANDER_EXE%
ShowHiddenSystem=1

There must be a difference between beta 10 and 11.

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petermad wrote:2SSc

Could you give a link to the icon-ib you are using, for us to try!
Using the latest WCMICONS48.DLL from Christian displays the ! fine in b11
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With Configuration > Options > Icons > Show default folder/file icons from Explorer UNTICKED
and OldDriveIcons=2 there is a visual difference between beta 10 and 11.
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It seems the default has changed. TC dims the icons as well as showing the overlay exclamation mark, which is redundant and superfluous IMO. Please also note that the icons of symlinks and junctions look REALLY UGLY with the new overlay exclamation mark (when the file icons are not retrieved from Explorer)!

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Please remove the exclamation mark from symlinked elements when the option "Show default folder/file icons from Explorer" is disabled. It's rather pointless to show them and they look like ... I don't know what to call them.

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Please remove the exclamation mark from symlinked elements when the option
To be fair - the symlinks icons are only marked that way when they have the hidden and system attribute set - which Microsoft like to do with most of their symlinks and junctions.

But maybe it would be a good idea to except symlinks/hardlinks/junctions from the exclamationmark/dimmed feature - because it does look weird on links
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petermad wrote:2SSc

Could you give a link to the icon-ib you are using, for us to try!
Thanks for analyzing!

I use this lib: https://www.dropbox.com/s/wc83b13qf0rfsfb/wcmicons.zip?dl=0

I downloaded it a few weeks ago from this thread: http://www.ghisler.ch/board/viewtopic.php?t=44091)
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That's a library for button bar/main menu icons, not for file list buttons.

I followed the link http://www.ghisler.ch/board/viewtopic.php?t=44091 and downloaded the flat_FileIcons_v1.00.7z and used:
IconLib=%COMMANDER_PATH%\flat_FileIcons.dll
for file list icons

With that iconlib I can confirm that you don't get any '!' on hidden/sytem folders - but that is because flat_FileIcons.dll only has 37 icons whereas a full TC9b11 compatible iconlib has 50 icons, where some of those icons are used for overlaying '!' - so that is why you cannot see the '!'.

You must either get another full TC9b11 compatible 50-icons iconlib or use Iconlib=%COMMANDER_EXE% until such a an iconlib is available.

Documented in history.txt
23.08.16 Fixed: When using external icon library (via iconlib=) for files/folders, do not use '!' overlay (from TC) if the icon library does not contain any '!' overlay. Use method from TC 8.x instead: separate icon for hidden/system (32/64)
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petermad wrote:
That's a library for button bar/main menu icons, not for file list buttons.

I followed the link http://www.ghisler.ch/board/viewtopic.php?t=44091 and downloaded the flat_FileIcons_v1.00.7z and used:
IconLib=%COMMANDER_PATH%\flat_FileIcons.dll
for file list icons

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Ah :oops: , sorry, I indeed uploaded the wrong dll. Thanks for analyzing and your explanation. Much appreciated
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2SSc

You're welcome, but there also seem to be a bug or a misconception from several users part:

See: http://ghisler.ch/board/viewtopic.php?p=316082#316082
and: http://ghisler.ch/board/viewtopic.php?t=45460
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