F4Menu for all v0.58

ehab · Post by *ehab » 2010-10-01, 20:10 UTC

just wanted to say thanks for the latest version

Shanny · Post by *Shanny » 2010-10-02, 06:46 UTC

byblo wrote:I dont understand the behavior of this version :s

For instance, if I have a folder which containing a .TXT file, followed by a .EXE file, and i select on TC the .TXT file only, TC will naturally move the cursor to the next file without selecting it (.EXE)

At that moment, if I press F4 to edit the .TXT, it NOT opens the selected .TXT file, but the .EXE file !

I'm lost...

For your case, if the cursor on .TXT and you want to open it, just press F4 directly is OK, need not select it by pressing INS in advance.

Shanny · Post by *Shanny » 2010-10-02, 06:53 UTC

MVV

Tested -a and -r parameters, work fine. BTW, will their message text be added to LNG?

Thanks! The parameter -a/-r is just added temporarily, will be removed in later version and adopt another approach, so need not new LNG string.

And, what exactly does parameter -fp? Is there difference between -fp and -p?

You are so attentive

Actually -fp equals to -f -p, where -f is an unannounced parameter, which means force foreground mode.

MVV · Post by *MVV » 2010-10-02, 09:14 UTC

Thanks for clarification.

The only problem I see in using F4Menu from Explorer is that %COMMANDER_PATH% won't be available there so editors with relative to TC folder path won't work.

byblo · Post by *byblo » 2010-10-02, 09:24 UTC

Shanny wrote:For your case, if the cursor on .TXT and you want to open it, just press F4 directly is OK, need not select it by pressing INS in advance.

It was just an example.
For instance if I want to edit 3 TXT, i have to select them! I dont want to edit the file where the cursor stopped after pressing INS ...

Shanny · Post by *Shanny » 2010-10-02, 12:08 UTC

MVV wrote:Thanks for clarification.

The only problem I see in using F4Menu from Explorer is that %COMMANDER_PATH% won't be available there so editors with relative to TC folder path won't work.

To solve this problem, you can set %COMMANDER_PATH% as system env variable.

Shanny · Post by *Shanny » 2010-10-02, 12:14 UTC

byblo wrote:
Shanny wrote:For your case, if the cursor on .TXT and you want to open it, just press F4 directly is OK, need not select it by pressing INS in advance.
It was just an example.
For instance if I want to edit 3 TXT, i have to select them! I dont want to edit the file where the cursor stopped after pressing INS ...

You have to press UP after that, a little inconvenience indeed, but as MVV mentioned - consistent with TC's behavior.

MVV · Post by *MVV » 2010-10-02, 14:44 UTC

byblo wrote:
Shanny wrote:For your case, if the cursor on .TXT and you want to open it, just press F4 directly is OK, need not select it by pressing INS in advance.
It was just an example.
For instance if I want to edit 3 TXT, i have to select them! I dont want to edit the file where the cursor stopped after pressing INS ...

You don't need to select file to edit it. Just put cursor onto it and press F4 - just like you did it before using F4Menu.

byblo · Post by *byblo » 2010-10-02, 19:15 UTC

Shanny wrote:You have to press UP after that, a little inconvenience indeed, but as MVV mentioned - consistent with TC's behavior.

I disagree. This change is pointless, and very annoying...
Old F4Menu behavior was perfect.
Why changing it ???

Well, returning again to 0.20rc4 then

Thanks anyway...

MVV wrote:You don't need to select file to edit it. Just put cursor onto it and press F4 - just like you did it before using F4Menu.

Er... what ? How to you put cursor on the same time on 3 different files ?
That is the purpose of selecting them, then press F4 to open all at once...

MVV · Post by *MVV » 2010-10-02, 20:32 UTC

Ok, I understood your position. I suggest you to select last file using Space bar instead of Insert key.

byblo · Post by *byblo » 2010-10-02, 20:55 UTC

MVV wrote:Ok, I understood your position. I suggest you to select last file using Space bar instead of Insert key.

No its ok. Ill stay with the old 0.20
Anyway, there are others things that are bugging me with 0.50

Balderstrom · Post by *Balderstrom » 2010-10-02, 21:03 UTC

Never thought much about it, but the INSert behaviour is just plain bad.
Should be MoveDown + Select, instead of Select + MoveDown.

Just like Ctrl+LeftClick: when no files are selected, cursor starts @ [..]
Ctrl+Click on any File: [..] gets selected (plus the File)
Similarily with INSert: it will select [..] and then move to the next file.

So then one could have (something like):
INSert := Select/Unselect Next File
SPACE:= Select/Unselect Current File.
Shift+Space:=Select/Unselect Previous File.

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Think I'll remap INSert in AHK

-- though I'll prolly still never use it.

I was almost thinking the (new) behaviour should be optional, but now I believe ghisler should fix the [..] behaviour and possibly the INSert key. The [..] selection has bugged me for numerous years now, and it never makes it to the Fixed List.

Post by *Hacker » 2010-10-02, 22:54 UTC

Balderstrom,

I believe ghisler should fix the [..] behaviour and possibly the INSert key

There is no bug with the insert key.

Roman

Balderstrom · Post by *Balderstrom » 2010-10-02, 23:37 UTC

I didn't say there was a bug with it, just TC can't do internal Scripting or multiple commands. Thus a (Prev|Next)Select would let the endUser define their Selection Keys as needed without the requirement of 3rd Party software.

Shanny · Post by *Shanny » 2010-10-03, 05:50 UTC

byblo wrote:I disagree. This change is pointless, and very annoying...
Old F4Menu behavior was perfect.
Why changing it ???

Seems this change cannot make everyone happy, maybe we need a new option to choose its behavior as user like...

Anyway, there are others things that are bugging me with 0.50

What's the bug in 0.50? thanks!