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Make Find text easier to use

Posted: 2010-07-11, 12:11 UTC
by Jibz
I mentioned this in a previous post but since it was more of a comment down in the discussion I thought I would repost it since it's one of my few daily annoyances with TC :).

I would like to suggest making it so clicking the find text edit box on the find files dialog enables the find text option and lets you enter text into the edit box.

At the moment you have to click the check box or text to the left of the edit box which I find less intuitive.

Please don't post to tell me I can press Alt-t or Shift-Tab twice to get to it, I am not blind or unable to use standard windows shortcuts, but neither of these, to me, are intuitive or particularly easy to press.

Posted: 2010-07-11, 17:34 UTC
by fenix_productions
Support++

Posted: 2010-07-12, 13:54 UTC
by aRIEL242
Support++

Posted: 2010-07-12, 14:41 UTC
by Horst.Epp
Sorry, but I don't see the point.
If I click on the text or checkbox it automatically puts the cursor into the text field for me and I can start typing the text to search for.

Posted: 2010-07-12, 23:04 UTC
by ts4242
Support++
Horst.Epp wrote:Sorry, but I don't see the point.
If I click on the text or checkbox it automatically puts the cursor into the text field for me and I can start typing the text to search for.
The point is that, you have to click the checkbox first (if it is unchecked) to start typing in the textbox.

Jibz requests that, enabling the textbox as soon as you click it, even if it is disabled, something like PromptedTextBox which contains a prompt that disappears once you click it, leaving an empty textbox where you can type your search string

Posted: 2010-07-13, 03:12 UTC
by MVV
ts4242 wrote:even if it is disabled
In this case there is no need to disable find text field at all, just activate find text checkbox if user changes text.

Posted: 2010-07-13, 04:07 UTC
by ts4242
MVV wrote:
ts4242 wrote:even if it is disabled
In this case there is no need to disable find text field at all, just activate find text checkbox if user changes text.
Not true as text field may be disabled but contains some text from previous search.

Posted: 2010-07-13, 06:11 UTC
by MVV
There is no need to disable text field since 'search text' checkbox exists - if it is not checked, text in text field is not used in search.

Posted: 2010-07-13, 07:37 UTC
by sas2000
Support +

Posted: 2010-07-13, 07:56 UTC
by Jibz
I think it's related to how your eyes move down over the dialog as you use it. I have tried to illustrate it:

Image: http://i29.tinypic.com/25hcsus.png

Your eyes start in the file mask edit box, and then move down to the find text edit box. Since the area you focus on has a limited width, you do not notice the grayed out arrow all the way to the right in the edit box, and for the same reason the check box all the way left is hard to use.

It's simply more intuitive to click where your eyes are on the edit box and expect to start typing there imho.

Posted: 2010-07-13, 10:19 UTC
by MVV
Just make new language file (or modify existing one):

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5603="Search for, &1:"
5607="Find text, &2:"
So it will allow to jump to 'search for' field using Alt+1 and to 'find text' field using Alt+2 (if find text checkbox is not enable yet - if it is enabled, you may need to press Alt+2 twice). :)

Posted: 2010-07-13, 11:17 UTC
by Jibz
Thanks, but like I mentioned in my original post I am not looking for a workaround or AHK script or other strange hacks.

I am perfectly able to press Alt-t if I wanted a keyboard shortcut, but what I am suggesting is a (to me at least) more intuitive way to enable the edit box with the mouse :).

Posted: 2010-07-13, 11:24 UTC
by theosdikaios
Jibz requests that, enabling the textbox as soon as you click it, even if it is disabled
If possible that would be fine. :D

Posted: 2010-07-13, 11:43 UTC
by MVV
As I said, I don't see any reason to disable field and enable it by mouse click, even more, disabled controls can't be accessed by Tab. It is much more convenient to keep field enabled always but enable find text checkbox when user changes text in field (so if user edits text, he wants to find text).

BTW Alt+digit is more convenient if keyboard has more than one layout.

Posted: 2010-07-13, 11:50 UTC
by Jibz
MVV wrote:As I said, I don't see any reason to disable field and enable it by mouse click, even more, disabled controls can't be accessed by Tab. It is much more convenient to keep field enabled always but enable find text checkbox when user changes text in field (so if user edits text, he wants to find text).
That would be fine as well, since it achieves the same thing -- clicking the edit box lets you enter text :).