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Make exit menu item standard one (Files > Exit) (Alt F, X

Posted: 2014-02-17, 10:05 UTC
by miroslav.vrlik
Request to minor resource text change:

Please make Total Commander exit sequence responding to Alt F, X. Menu File > Exit is today's way to close most of standard larger applications (Office apps, Firefox, Visual Studio, etc.).

If there is a valid reason to keep File > Quit, then OK, but it looks to me to be simply a left-over from early ages (Windows Commander 2.X) when exiting of Windows applications had no broader standards.

Edit: topic title changed to more clear

Posted: 2014-02-17, 10:10 UTC
by Horst.Epp
Sorry, no need for any other Exit sequence.
Why should I want to exit TC at all ?
For restarting TC I have an entry in the start menu.
Also you can change the main menu and assign whatever you like.
:D

Posted: 2014-02-17, 10:32 UTC
by miroslav.vrlik
Sorry for not being clear, you apparently misunderstood my post. No new exit sequence needs to be introduced.

Just change menu item

File > Quit

to

File > Exit.

The latter one is a standard today.


Is there any reason for keeping incompatible File > Quit?

Posted: 2014-02-17, 11:21 UTC
by karlchen
Hello, miroslav.vrlik.

I Basically agree qith your request.
Currently Total Commander seems to be somewhat inconsistent when it comes to using the word "Exit" vs "Quit" in the "File" menu:

In my localized German Total Commander the way is "Dateien" => "Exit", shortcut: <Alt>d x
In the English Total Commander the way is "Files" => "Quit", shortcut: <Alt>f q

I assume it would be all right for native English speakers to have "Files" => "Exit", shortcut: <Alt>f x, too.

But as can be seen by comparing German and English only, it will still be <Alt>f for "Files" vs . <Alt>d for "Dateien". So the shortcut to open the "Files" menu will be different in each localized T.C. version. I am not quite sure that the word "Exit" can be used in all languages.

With respect to the English version, I cannot imagine that there is something wrong with changing it to "Files" => "Exit", shortcut: <alt>f x. Means I did not spot any other other accelerator key "x" in the English main menu.

Cheers,
Karl

Posted: 2014-02-17, 11:55 UTC
by miroslav.vrlik
Hello Karlchen,

I admit I forgot to note that I meant only the English version.

Most applications in English currently use File > Exit and therefore menu item Files > Exit is my suggestion for English Total Commander, too.

For other languages keep using what's the best standard in their languages. For example Dateien > Exit in the German version.

Posted: 2014-02-17, 18:14 UTC
by petermad
Menu File > Exit is today's way to close most of standard larger applications (Office apps, Firefox
Not my FireFox - it is Menu Filer > Afslut - but off course it is in Danish ;-)

2miroslav.vrlik
Until your requst is honoured (if ever) you can do the following:

1. find the file WCMD_ENG.MNU in Total Commanders Language subdirectory.
2. Edit line 26 in that file from:
MENUITEM "&Quit\tAlt+F4", 24340
to
MENUITEM "E&xit\tAlt+F4", 24340
3. In TC, open "Configuration" -> "Options..." -> "Language"
4: Click ">>" to the right of the field "Main menu file:" and select the file WCMD_ENG.MNU

You might consider write-protecting WCMD_ENG.MNU to avoid having it overwritten with future releases of TC - but you should check future WCMD_ENG.MNU files for other changes.

Anyway why don't you just use Alt+F4? - that's universal (unless you have redifined hotkeys manually), not language specific, and one keystroke less!

Posted: 2014-02-18, 11:50 UTC
by miroslav.vrlik
2 petermad

Sure, I know I can change it in resource file. :)

But why keep incompatible English phrase on this menu item?

Re: Make exit menu item standard one (Files > Exit) (Alt F, X

Posted: 2020-08-14, 19:35 UTC
by miroslav.vrlik
Please, please, please, make this consistent with all other English software...

I can perform Alt+F, X (File > Exit) to exit all web browsers, all Office apps, all development environments. Make the Total Commander consistent with the standard, it is easy for you.