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*bump too - it should be easy to implement...
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Re: Show archive is opened by which plugin somewhere

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support ++

(along with the display of the lister plugin name in the quick view panel)
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bump for 10.50
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support ++

(along with the display of the lister plugin name in the quick view panel)

bump for 10.50

too....
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Re: Show archive is opened by which plugin somewhere

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https://www.ghisler.ch/board/viewtopic.php?p=363606#p363606
You can see it when you press Alt+Enter on a file within the archive. For example, if you used extension 7z1 for Total7zip and extension 7z2 for the 7zip plugin, it shows 7z1 when Total7zip was used, and 7z2 when the 7zip plugin was used. For the internal 7zip handler, it shows: 7zip (dll)
Of course this only works when there are files in that archive, but I didn't find a better way to show it.
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Re: Show archive is opened by which plugin somewhere

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ghisler(Author) wrote: 2022-04-22, 09:14 UTC https://www.ghisler.ch/board/viewtopic.php?p=363606#p363606
You can see it when you press Alt+Enter on a file within the archive. For example, if you used extension 7z1 for Total7zip and extension 7z2 for the 7zip plugin, it shows 7z1 when Total7zip was used, and 7z2 when the 7zip plugin was used. For the internal 7zip handler, it shows: 7zip (dll)
Of course this only works when there are files in that archive, but I didn't find a better way to show it.
For you link I can provide my link )))
https://www.ghisler.ch/board/viewtopic.php?p=363647#p363647

And For me it's not so obvious to use Alt+Enter for viewing the file properties - because for an archive for me it does not matter which properties it has. BUT when i dig into the archive with CTRL+PGDN - I WANT to see with help of which unpacker I could do that.

And please very much - pay attention to how the person on my link describes the big problem with naming all the unpackers. What kind of invalid names (often just extensions) are substituted for humanly readable full unpacker names...
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For the internal 7zip handler, it shows: 7zip (dll)
I don't see anything like that anywhere.
[img]https://i.ibb.co/RQK0p05/1.png[/img]
As you see - there is no any string with mark "(dll)"/"internal"
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I don't see anything like that anywhere.
It's shown in the properties of a file inside the archive (Alt+Enter or right click menu -> Properties).
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ghisler(Author) wrote: 2022-04-22, 09:44 UTC
I don't see anything like that anywhere.
It's shown in the properties of a file inside the archive (Alt+Enter or right click menu -> Properties).
Probably already from my question in the previous post you had to understand - that this place is absolutely not suitable for intuitive and fast and clear readable place for this kind of information.
But the panel header - the column with the name - may well become such a place. That is as soon as we have entered the archive one way or another - the column header changes from just "Name" to "[<type of archive>] Name".
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It's shown in the properties of a file inside the archive (Alt+Enter or right click menu -> Properties).
Still - for plugin packed files, that info just shows the extension of the file - not the actual pack format...

https://www.ghisler.ch/board/viewtopic.php?p=363647#p363647
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Re: Show archive is opened by which plugin somewhere

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petermad wrote: 2022-04-22, 14:19 UTC
It's shown in the properties of a file inside the archive (Alt+Enter or right click menu -> Properties).
Still - for plugin packed files, that info just shows the extension of the file - not the actual pack format...

https://www.ghisler.ch/board/viewtopic.php?p=363647#p363647
You may notice what I already used your link in my post a little bit above)))
Looks like we thinking about the same.
But maybe you can prepare some more "telling" screenshots about this case?
I have a strange feelings that Ghisler does not think about the same problem as we do :)
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I have a strange feelings that Ghisler does not think about the same problem as we do
That's why I replied and repeated the link to my old post.
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Re: Show archive is opened by which plugin somewhere

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I think there is a lot of confusion here.

Isn't it all about simply displaying the name of the currently used packer plugin as long as we are browsing an archive?
Maybe just where the green arrow points to in https://ibb.co/SKVGBkc

Examples:

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[zip (internal)]: c:\_download\totalcmd1000.zip\*.*
[ArbitararyPacker]: c:\_download\xxx.arb\*.*
...
That would be really great!

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In addition it would be great if we could click the plugin name to get a dropdown of other plugins installed and switch between them (in case there is 2+ plugins that can handle the archive). Just like as it was recently added to the lister. Of course, this request means a substantial amount of work and I would not expect it to show up soon.
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BTW: In case several packer plugins are associated to the same file extension, in which order will TC try to use these plugins?
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Re: Show archive is opened by which plugin somewhere

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funkymonk wrote: 2022-04-22, 17:35 UTC I think there is a lot of confusion here.

Isn't it all about simply displaying the name of the currently used packer plugin as long as we are browsing an archive?
Maybe just where the green arrow points to in https://ibb.co/SKVGBkc

Examples:

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[zip (internal)]: c:\_download\totalcmd1000.zip\*.*
[ArbitararyPacker]: c:\_download\xxx.arb\*.*
...
That would be really great!

-----

In addition it would be great if we could click the plugin name to get a dropdown of other plugins installed and switch between them (in case there is 2+ plugins that can handle the archive). Just like as it was recently added to the lister. Of course, this request means a substantial amount of work and I would not expect it to show up soon.
Fully agree with your last proposal!!! Regarding your first idea - I think this places is not really suitable - because I can convert it into the editbox - from which I can copy the full path. And IF this element will now contain some additional info like from your example:
"[zip (internal)]: c:\_download\totalcmd1000.zip\*.*"
in the clipboard now I will get exactly a full copy: "[zip (internal)]: c:\_download\totalcmd1000.zip\"
instead of desirable "c:\_download\totalcmd1000.zip\"
That's why I proposed to put such information in the HEADER "Name". In your screenshot we already see that [AUTO] was prepend to the name of this column. Obviously that this suffix already mean something. But I don't know what it is. But I suggest to add a really noticeable info instead of this unintuitive and incomprehensible [AUTO] - real info about the really used unpacker: "[zip (internal)]: Name"
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