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[Req] Dynamic and more complete function key command bar

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:idea: It would be very nice to have a F1 thru F12 button bar, which can be used with keyboard modifiers (button click over 'F5' while 'Alt' pressed should give 'Alt-F5', and so on). Also, button captions should change according to the pressed key modifiers, showing the actual action/comand performed, even for reassigned keys. This way, if I have reassigned the 'F1' key to 'cm_RereadSource', then the F1 caption should read "Reread Source" or just "Reread" (this may be accomplished by having a "short caption" together with the "long description" we already know for commands).

:idea: Note that this implementation would be useful also as a shortcut reference or hints: You don't remember if the Alt-F11 is already assigned or which command does it actually perform? Just press Alt and the caption over the F-11 key will be shown. You get the short caption and, if you need the full name for the command (long description and maybe even the cm_xxx internal name), just hover the mouse cursor over the button and it is shown.

:idea: Additionally, these F-keys/buttons could be reassigned by the use of the right mouse button together with the modifiers (thus, a right click-Edit over the F11 button with 'Alt' pressed could edit the 'Alt-F11' button assignment).

The toolbar could be displayed as follows (at the beginning of the line, a static caption can show the currently pressed modifier(s)):

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      [F1-Help    ] [F2-Rename   ] [F3-View    ] ... [F11-XX   ] [F12-YY  ]

Alt - [F1-Chg L   ] [F2-Chg Rght ] [F3-Ext View] ... [F11-     ] [F12-Alt YY]

Shft- [F1-Cust Col] [F2-Cmpr Dirs] ...

Ctrl- [F1-Brief   ] [F2-Full     ] ...

AlSh- ...  (Alt+Shift)
ASC - ...  (Alt+Shift+Ctrl)
...
Of course, unassigned f-keys (like Alt-F11 in this example) should be shown as 'blank').

With this behaviour, the user could have much more functionality than today, while making it easier to recall and assign these commands.
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For points 1 and 2 the problem is the translation, the author once said.

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Maybe the english 'short captions' could be used as default for toolbar captions (if not defined in the language file), while the 'long descriptions' will be displayed in the selected language as tooltips over the buttons.

TC can display any defined caption for the buttons, and just truncate the incorrectly defined or oversized ones.
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Re: [Req] Dynamic and more complete function key command bar

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I second this feature request!!! Actually, how is it possible that dynamic titles on the button bar are not implemented yet?
If the problem is in translations, you may take a look at FAR Manager ( https://www.farmanager.com/download.php?l=en ) - it contains translations to 20 languages, and the button titles on its button bar are dynamic.
Also you may tale a look at muCommander ( https://www.mucommander.com/ ) - it contains quite a few translations, and button titles on its button bar at least reflect the Shift key pressed.
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Re: [Req] Dynamic and more complete function key command bar

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Re: [Req] Dynamic and more complete function key command bar

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DVV wrote: 2021-10-08, 13:01 UTC I second this feature request!!! Actually, how is it possible that dynamic titles on the button bar are not implemented yet?
If the problem is in translations, you may take a look at FAR Manager ( https://www.farmanager.com/download.php?l=en ) - it contains translations to 20 languages, and the button titles on its button bar are dynamic.
Also you may tale a look at muCommander ( https://www.mucommander.com/ ) - it contains quite a few translations, and button titles on its button bar at least reflect the Shift key pressed.
Indeed yes. My idea is not entirely original. I use FAR Manager on Scada servers and industrial PCs with little resources and like a lot the way it dinamically displays the availability (and non-availability) of functions for F-keys upon pressing key modifiers. Also, F9 thru F12 could be easily displayed at the bottom given today's screen sizes and a narrow font if needed.
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