PDF Viewer plugin for TC 64-bit in 2021?

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Re: PDF Viewer plugin for TC 64-bit in 2021?

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Horst.Epp wrote: 2023-12-11, 17:00 UTCIt runs fast even with large PDFs
With your data, but there are others.
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Fla$her wrote: 2023-12-11, 16:49 UTC And why is the installation of Win XP indicated here? And why exactly is my? This applies to all XP.

For the same reasons that are being actively discussed here — the loss of focus and the work of some hotkeys.
You seem to perceive my post negatively when I intended to support you.

You wrote you cannot use a higher version than 3.2 on your installed OS WinXP. I didn't mean to point out your installation of WinXP in particular, I understand that WinXP is globally affected by the issue that there is no higher version of SumatraPDF available for WinXP than v3.2.

As far as I know, there are no focus issues with SumatraPDF up to v3.4.6, at least according to my experience with Windows 10/11. So I assumed you aren't facing any focus issues, either.
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deus-ex wrote: 2023-12-11, 18:12 UTC You seem to perceive my post negatively when I intended to support you.
No, I'm responding to specific information.
It has nothing to do with anyone's desires or attitude.
deus-ex wrote: 2023-12-11, 18:12 UTCYou wrote you cannot use a higher version than 3.2 on your installed OS WinXP.
I wrote that I use it because of XP+ compatibility.
deus-ex wrote: 2023-12-11, 18:12 UTC I understand that WinXP is globally affected by the issue that there is no higher version of SumatraPDF available for WinXP than v3.2.
Good. This is official information.
deus-ex wrote: 2023-12-11, 18:12 UTC So I assumed you aren't facing any focus issues, either.
Since slister is still the preferred plugin, it is obvious that there is. I wrote what the main reason for using it is.
If the focus problem remained with SumatraPDF.wlx, then there would be no point in raising this topic.
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Re: PDF Viewer plugin for TC 64-bit in 2021?

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Fla$her wrote: 2023-12-11, 10:58 UTC
macleod wrote: 2023-12-11, 08:33 UTC If it was a wlx problem, different versions of SumatraPDF.exe wouldn't behave differently.
Well, why argue if I know for sure that both folders contain the same exe file with the same version?
I have large PDF scans, when opening which the system freezes for a few minutes, which does not happen with slister.
By the way, this also applies to IrfanView.wlx by the same author.
As I wrote somewhere here before, the same issue with starting without focus appeared in many older pre-release versions of SumatraPDF, usually solved with the release version, always with the same version of Slister. It seems to be some kind of pre-release part of code for bug tracking or something like that, which disappeared in the release version. IDK how the author of TCSumatraPDF plugin solved this, but he could refocus the window some other way.

EDIT: I tried TCSumatraPDF v 1.6 now and have to say, that slister is much cleaner for me. I'll stay with it, even with Sumatra version 3.4.6. PDF file with 1550 pages opened immediately, 0 secs delay.
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macleod wrote: 2023-12-11, 19:58 UTC slister is much cleaner for me
Sounds good for slister. :)
macleod wrote: 2023-12-11, 19:58 UTC PDF file with 1550 pages opened immediately, 0 secs delay.
With scans or just text?
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Fla$her wrote: 2023-12-11, 21:26 UTC With scans or just text?
Combined - Autodesk Revit 2024 Black Book
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macleod wrote: 2023-12-12, 04:33 UTC Combined - Autodesk Revit 2024 Black Book
812 pages. slister opens quickly (less than a second), and sumatrapdf.wlx in 3 seconds.
Of course, these are not scanned pages, but partial inserts of images, so there's not a long wait.
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I didn’t want to continue this topic, but since the controversy flared up, I decided to test both plugins for speed. Indeed, on SumatraPDF 3.2 my plugin is slower than sLister. On newer versions of SumatraPDF the difference is not so noticeable, but it is there.
Thanks to Fla$her for testing. I'll try to figure this out,
if this does not affect the functionality of the plugin. The fact is that the size of my plugin’s sources is almost 3 times larger than the sLister sources. Because I have added many options that are not in sLister and I am not going to give them up.
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Thank you for confirming. Otherwise, everyone here is writing something, rejoices, and I don't have cause for joy yet.
I hope you can optimize something.

And what are the many options? Have you published them anywhere?
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Whatever others see, for me the loading time of SLister and TCSumatraPDF
are almost the same, with no delay for large PDFs.
This is dependent on the hardware, of course. My system is fast and has enough RAM.

SLister together with the newest SumatraPDF beta (3.6.15920) has a new strange effect in Quick View.
It first displays the PDF shortly like with F3 before its shown correct in the other pane.
This effect is only with SLister, not with the SumatraPDF plugin.
One more reason for me to stay with the SumatraPDF plugin :D
Windows 11 Home x64 Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.3527)
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Everything 1.5.0.1373a (x64), Everything Toolbar 1.3.3, Listary Pro 6.3.0.73
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Horst.Epp wrote: 2023-12-12, 14:41 UTC Whatever others see, for me the loading time of SLister and TCSumatraPDF are almost the same, with no delay for large PDFs.
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AkulaBig wrote: 2023-12-12, 13:42 UTC Indeed, on SumatraPDF 3.2 my plugin is slower than sLister. On newer versions of SumatraPDF the difference is not so noticeable, but it is there.
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Re: PDF Viewer plugin for TC 64-bit in 2021?

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Horst.Epp wrote: 2023-12-12, 14:41 UTC This effect is only with SLister, not with the SumatraPDF plugin.
Because my plugin currently does not use the standard capabilities of SumatraPDF. I had to completely rewrite the code.
Horst.Epp wrote: 2023-12-12, 14:41 UTC My system is fast and has enough RAM.
The speed still very much depends on the version of SumatraPDF. The latest versions themselves work much faster.
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Re: PDF Viewer plugin for TC 64-bit in 2021?

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Fla$her wrote: 2023-12-12, 14:17 UTC And what are the many options?
Nothing yet. I'm currently working on another plugin. When I have time, I’ll start to understand the reasons.
Fla$her wrote: 2023-12-12, 14:17 UTC Have you published them anywhere?
I communicate with the help of a translator. Didn't understand what I was supposed to post. Test results?
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AkulaBig wrote: 2023-12-12, 16:35 UTC Didn't understand what I was supposed to post. Test results?
No. >>>
AkulaBig wrote: 2023-12-12, 13:42 UTC Because I have added many options that are not in sLister and I am not going to give them up.
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Re: PDF Viewer plugin for TC 64-bit in 2021?

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Fla$her wrote: 2023-12-12, 18:18 UTC
AkulaBig wrote: 2023-12-12, 16:35 UTC Didn't understand what I was supposed to post. Test results?
No. >>>
AkulaBig wrote: 2023-12-12, 13:42 UTC Because I have added many options that are not in sLister and I am not going to give them up.
It's clear. Everything is described in the readme.
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