FTP abort with a request for a password (FTP Abbruch mit Frage nach Passwort)

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FTP abort with a request for a password (FTP Abbruch mit Frage nach Passwort)

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TC 10.50 x64 - Windows 11 21H2 Build 739

FTPs Session wird geöffnet (Verbindung ist gespeichert - Ohne Master Kennwort)
Mehrere große Dateien (30 GB) werden ausgewählt und übertragen
Wenn die erste Datei fertig übertragen wurde, wird nicht mit der zweiten Datei weitergemacht, sondern ein Fenster erscheint:

Titel - Name der Verbindung
Inhalt - Passwort:

Wenn ich das bekannte Passwort eingebe, erscheint ein weiteres Fenster:

Titel - ftp
Inhalt - 421 Timeout (120 Seconds): closing control connection.
Mit gleichem Namen/Passwort weiter versuchen, oder neu eingeben?
Weiter versuchen | Neu eingeben | Abbrechen

Der Klick auf "Weiter versuchen" ist dann erfolgreich.

Moderator message from: white » 2022-07-16, 09:17 UTC

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TC 10.50 x64 - Windows 11 21H2 Build 739

FTPs session is opened (connection is saved - without master password)
Several large files (30 GB) are selected and transferred
When the first file has been transferred, the second file is not continued, but a window appears:

Title - Name of the connection
Content - Password:

If I enter the known password, another window appears:

Title - ftp
Content - 421 Timeout (120 Seconds): closing control connection.
Retry with same user name/password, or re-enter them?
Retry | Re-enter | Abort

Clicking on "Retry" is then successful.
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Re: FTP Abbruch mit Frage nach Passwort

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Offenbar ist während des Downloads die Befehlsverbindung zum Server verloren gegangen. TC 10.50 vergisst aus Sicherheitsgründen das Passwort, wenn man ihn minimiert oder wenn der Bildschirmschoner sich einschaltet, deshalb die Frage nach dem Passwort.

Moderator message from: white » 2022-07-16, 09:27 UTC

Translation:
Apparently the command connection to the server was lost during the download. For security reasons, TC 10.50 forgets the password when it is minimized or when the screensaver is activated, hence the question for the password.
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Re: FTP Abbruch mit Frage nach Passwort

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Aber er hat das Passwort doch in der INI Datei gespeichert. Er muss es doch nur noch einmal wieder auslesen.

Moderator message from: white » 2022-07-16, 09:28 UTC

Translation:
But the password is saved in the INI file, isn't it? It should be read from the file again, shouldn't it?
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Re: FTP Abbruch mit Frage nach Passwort

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Sorry, diesen Fall dass jemand das Passwort ungeschützt speichert habe ich gar nicht erst in Betracht gezogen, weil viel zu unsicher. Ich werde das noch einbauen.

Moderator message from: white » 2022-07-16, 09:29 UTC

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Sorry, I didn't even consider this case of someone saving the password unprotected, because it's far too insecure. I will add it.
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Re: FTP Abbruch mit Frage nach Passwort

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This is a horrible new "feature". Please build an option to disable this "feature".

Is there a way to downgrade to previous working version?
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Re: FTP Abbruch mit Frage nach Passwort

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2zarathustra
Is there a way to downgrade to previous working version?
https://totalcommander.ch/win/tcmd1000x64.exe | https://totalcommander.ch/win/tcmd1000x32.exe

Anyway - the History says:
history.txt wrote:21.06.22 Fixed: For security reasons, clear all passwords of currently active FTP connections when Total Commander gets minimized or the screen saver starts, same as with the master password (32/64)
So I guess you can use the KeepMasterPassword setting in your wcx_ftp.ini file:
Help wrote:KeepMasterPassword=0 Allow to keep master password in memory when:
1: program is minimized
2: screen saver starts
3: both
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Re: FTP Abbruch mit Frage nach Passwort

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Many thanks Peter! The setting belongs under which [node]? I added it under each

[somesite.com]
host=somesite.com
KeepMasterPassword=3

Is this the right way to do it?
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Re: Old version

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zarathustra wrote: 2022-07-16, 04:09 UTC The setting belongs under which [node]?
Help says it belongs to section [General].
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Re: FTP abort with a request for a password (FTP Abbruch mit Frage nach Passwort)

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I'm working on an improvement for TC 10.51:
1. Do not clear the password if it's stored in the ini without master password
2. Clear it if it's stored with master password, ask for master password when trying to reconnect
3. Clear it if it was entered manually (not stored)
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Re: FTP abort with a request for a password (FTP Abbruch mit Frage nach Passwort)

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ghisler(Author) wrote: 2022-07-17, 13:50 UTC I'm working on an improvement for TC 10.51:
1. Do not clear the password if it's stored in the ini without master password
2. Clear it if it's stored with master password, ask for master password when trying to reconnect
3. Clear it if it was entered manually (not stored)
I think it makes sense like this.

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Re: FTP abort with a request for a password (FTP Abbruch mit Frage nach Passwort)

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In the end I have downgraded to a previous version.

I have added the KeepMasterPassword=3, but sometimes the request for password still appears. I have to disconnect and reconnect again - but then I have to navigate again to the FTP path. Very annoying.
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Re: FTP abort with a request for a password (FTP Abbruch mit Frage nach Passwort)

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zarathustra wrote: 2022-07-26, 11:42 UTC In the end I have downgraded to a previous version.

I have added the KeepMasterPassword=3, but sometimes the request for password still appears. I have to disconnect and reconnect again - but then I have to navigate again to the FTP path. Very annoying.
You have to wait for version 10.51 of course to see the new behaviour
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Re: FTP abort with a request for a password (FTP Abbruch mit Frage nach Passwort)

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Horst.Epp wrote: 2022-07-26, 11:48 UTC
zarathustra wrote: 2022-07-26, 11:42 UTC In the end I have downgraded to a previous version.

I have added the KeepMasterPassword=3, but sometimes the request for password still appears. I have to disconnect and reconnect again - but then I have to navigate again to the FTP path. Very annoying.
You have to wait for version 10.51 of course to see the new behaviour
I mentioned it so developers are aware of this situation
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Re: FTP abort with a request for a password (FTP Abbruch mit Frage nach Passwort)

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zarathustra wrote: 2022-07-26, 15:58 UTC
Horst.Epp wrote: 2022-07-26, 11:48 UTC
zarathustra wrote: 2022-07-26, 11:42 UTC In the end I have downgraded to a previous version.

I have added the KeepMasterPassword=3, but sometimes the request for password still appears. I have to disconnect and reconnect again - but then I have to navigate again to the FTP path. Very annoying.
You have to wait for version 10.51 of course to see the new behaviour
I mentioned it so developers are aware of this situation
There is only one developer and Christian answered this already on this thread.
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Re: FTP abort with a request for a password (FTP Abbruch mit Frage nach Passwort)

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This should be fixed in TC 10.51 RC1, please test it. See my post above how it will be handled now.
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