[11.00b] New commands capitalization (followup)

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Re: [11.00b] New commands capitalization (followup)

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Sorry, I have no plans to change this dialog at this time. Maybe rename the long commands while still in beta?
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Re: [11.00b] New commands capitalization (followup)

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Why not give the command "column" like 10 more "pixels"?
I mean the window is resizeable and tc saves its position and size so its only the commands that cant be viewed in full.

I dont ask (what should have been there from the start) for real "columns", which would avoid
this problem all together but for a few more pixels, please?
Or make the column autosize to the longest string?
Or mayhaps at least the content of the cmd column as hover over tooltip?

and ZIPFROMLIST <archive name> <filelist> doesnt get any shorter imho....
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Re: [11.00b] New commands capitalization (followup)

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are longer then the predifinied width for the command and thus are displayed as

cm_AddPathAndFileNameToCmdlir
cm_RightSwitchToThisCustomView (the last letter is only partial visible)
OPENLANGUAGEFILE <WCMD_xyz.|
ZIPFROMLIST <archive name> <filelis
Confirmed - this is with default font setting, with increased DPI setting, even more is cut off.
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Re: [11.00b] New commands capitalization (followup)

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Also the dividing line I'm pointing at with the cursor should be draggable.
Now in the area on the left it is not yet possible to fully read the name of the subsection with commands.
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Re: [11.00b] New commands capitalization (followup)

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Sorry, it will never be possible to make it fit perfectly.
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Re: [11.00b] New commands capitalization (followup)

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Never Say Never Again. Imho you should know this.
If we can do at least something better, we must definitely make an effort to do so.
The suggestions given here above - don't involve you in some gigantic recoding phase.
Let's start by setting some more large numbers for the section widths somewhere in the form builder/pas files.

P.S.
For some reason, in the sync. window, you easily agreed to increase by some pixels of some unimportant size.
What is wrong with this window that it is denied such a small thing?
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Re: [11.00b] New commands capitalization (followup)

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There's no need to be perfect in this case. Just two things are needed:
1. Make the whole window higher by default to remove scrollbar in the left area.
2. Add scrollbar width to the left area width (to prevent hiding text when resizing the window).
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Re: [11.00b] New commands capitalization (followup)

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Currently when resizing the dialog horizontally, it is only the Decription column that is enlarged. Would it be possible that the Category and the Command columns could be increased by for example each 10 percent of the increase in the dialog width made by the user.

Or for now just add 10 - 15 pixels to the Category and the Command width.
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Re: [11.00b] New commands capitalization (followup)

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I have added 10 pixels, but it's not sufficient in all fonts even with scaling. But it's better than nothing.
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Re: [11.00b] New commands capitalization (followup)

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And what are your strong arguments in favor of increasing ONLY 10 pixels?
Something will break if you increase it by 20, maybe something will stop being displayed at all?
Maybe even the dialog itself will stop opening?
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Re: [11.00b] New commands capitalization (followup)

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As I wrote above, I have added 10 pixels, but it's still not sufficient with all fonts...
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Re: [11.00b] New commands capitalization (followup)

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It's hard to make an input out of this - WHY ONLY by 10.
20 is twice as big as 10, and it gives us twice the chance that strings visibility will be better on more conditions.
Yes, even 20 may not be enough((( That can happen too. BUT this is already a really significant value of the new width,
which I would like to see with my own eyes and assess the scale of disasters. But 10 is about nothing, sorry....

I also shown to you that the left part of this dialog: list of 'Category' isn't wide enough in order to fit all strings.
Why this separator between 2 lists isn't a draggable? Who knows...
But at least this section ALSO could be moved for 20 pixels to the right: https://ibb.co/Qpw9PQR

And it's in built-in English! These are not even complex languages, where one word in English can be replaced by only a phrase!
Or a very long (in letters) single word instead of a very short one in English....
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Re: [11.00b] New commands capitalization (followup)

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AntonyD wrote: 2023-06-28, 16:01 UTC But 10 is about nothing, sorry....
thats not true :!: 10 will make the commands I pointed out - at least in default configuration - visible
which is a start.

The rest can be done for v12 (like making the dialog do more then just being a display for tc.inc)
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Re: [11.00b] New commands capitalization (followup)

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https://ibb.co/2Zm0krw (DPI 120)
and this: https://ibb.co/Vqk9kqM (DPI 96)
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Re: [11.00b] New commands capitalization (followup)

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AntonyD wrote: 2023-06-28, 16:19 UTC 2Sir_SiLvA
https://ibb.co/2Zm0krw (DPI 120)
and this: https://ibb.co/Vqk9kqM (DPI 96)
So in other words no problem in default configuration, especially the
https://ibb.co/Vqk9kqM is not an issue as you can solve that one
by just resizing the cm_CommandBrowser window.
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