TC 11.03RC1 - Lister and video files

[Sombra]

I am having problems viewing certain video formats with Lister and QuickView under TC11.03 RC1. Viewing mp4 or mkv videos, Lister opens them as binary instead of image/multimedia. This behavior does not happen to me with the previous version of TC 11.02.
It may be a bug as I don't remember to have changed any settings recently and I have tested it on 2 different computers with TC 64bit Win 10 and Win 11.
Can anyone confirm this?

[Sir_SiLvA]

Nope cant confirm this (using the VLCPlayer-Plugin)
So the question is what plugin do you use for video files

[beb]

2Sombra
Viewing videos as videos in Lister in said versions of TotalCommander implies you have LAVfilters on your PC.

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https://www.ghisler.com/filters.htm

In 11.02 version you have to download LAVfilters from here:

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https://github.com/Nevcairiel/LAVFilters/releases
https://github.com/Nevcairiel/LAVFilters/releases/download/0.78/LAVFilters-0.78-x64.zip
https://github.com/Nevcairiel/LAVFilters/releases/download/0.78/LAVFilters-0.78-x86.zip

and place them (the contents of the archives; namely all DLL and AX files and LAVFilters.Dependencies.manifest file) here (regarding the bitness):

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%commander_path%\Filter32\
%commander_path%\Filter64\

In 11.03rc1 version you have two options:
- to do the same as above (see LAVFilters)
- or to specify the paths to the existing LAVFilters in the wincmd.ini, e.g.:

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[Lister]
filter32dir=C:\Program Files (x86)\MPC-HC\LAVFilters\
filter64dir=C:\Program Files\MPC-HC\LAVFilters64\

[beb]

Nope cant confirm this (using the VLCPlayer-Plugin)
So the question is what plugin do you use for video files

No plugins required for viewing videos in modern versions of TotalCommander, Lister supports most modern video and audio formats on its own (with LAVfilters: https://www.ghisler.com/filters.htm).

[Sir_SiLvA]

No plugins required for viewing videos in modern versions of TotalCommander, Lister supports most modern video and audio formats on its own (with LAVfilters: https://www.ghisler.com/filters.htm).

For my portable TC I prefer (portable) VLC (which includes all video/sound filters) and the VLCPlayer-Plugin but thanks for the hint.

[beb]

2Sir_SiLvA
You are welcome.
As you can see, a natively portable Total Commander can play video/sound files using natively portable LAVfilters even without your beloved portable VLC. At least a user has an option on what way to go regarding a matter of taste and personal preferences and experience.
Cheers.

[Sombra]

So the question is what plugin do you use for video files

No WLX plugins are used. Only in one of the two computers I have it forced with the option "Define view method by file type..." with 4i to prevent to load in first instance the plugin tcmediainfo.

2Sombra
Viewing videos as videos in Lister in said versions of TotalCommander implies you have LAVfilters on your PC.

Yes, I was already using them in the previous version 11.02 (default path C:\totalcmd\FILTER64\), but after the upgrade they seem to have been ignored.

In 11.03rc1 version you have two options:
- to do the same as above (see LAVFilters)
- or to specify the paths to the existing LAVFilters in the wincmd.ini, e.g.:

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[Lister]
filter32dir=C:\Program Files (x86)\MPC-HC\LAVFilters\
filter64dir=C:\Program Files\MPC-HC\LAVFilters64\

- The first option is the one that does not work for me after upgrading to TC11.03RC1.
- The second option: This did the trick. I have added to the [lister] section the new parameter and now it works as expected, thanks.

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filter64dir=%COMMANDER_PATH%\Filter64\ 

Strange that in my case even having the LAVFilters installed in its default path it seems that they are not found by TC. I don't know if anyone else will be able to reproduce the above, if so, I think that if the filters are in their default path, they should not be manually defined in wincmd.ini by the user.

[beb]

- The second option: This did the trick. I have added to the [lister] section the new parameter and now it works as expected, thanks.

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filter64dir=%COMMANDER_PATH%\Filter64\ 

Strange that in my case even having the LAVFilters installed in its default path it seems that they are not found by TC. I don't know if anyone else will be able to reproduce the above, if so, I think that if the filters are in their default path, they should not be manually defined in wincmd.ini by the user.

2Sombra
You are welcome.
Glad your issue is gone.

And seems, I have already reproduced it.
After doing numerous test installations of Total Commander I finally ended up in the same situation as yours when you started this thread.

Apparently, there's a difference in how v11.02 and 11.03rc1 handle the filters.

v11.02 upon clean installation with the filters in its filter subfolders identifies and uses them out of the box.
That is how v11.02 lister's settings regarding the filters look like (without any user actions):
Image: https://i.imgur.com/iIj6Qd8.png
That is how v11.03rc1 lister's settings regarding the filters look like (also without any user actions):
Image: https://i.imgur.com/OmtC1mt.png
Now it says filters are not installed and does not use them.

And nothing worked until I explicitly specified the filter paths in the same way as you did.

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[Lister]
filter32dir=%commander_path%\Filter32\
filter64dir=%commander_path%\Filter64\

So I came here to say that.
It might be a bug of v11.03rc1 if it doesn't use its own 'Filter32\', 'Filter64\' folders without explicitly specifying them in ini.

[Gral]

It's true for 64-bit version only, 32-bit version seems works correctly.

[petermad]

I am having problems viewing certain video formats with Lister and QuickView under TC11.03 RC1. Viewing mp4 or mkv videos, Lister opens them as binary instead of image/multimedia. This behavior does not happen to me with the previous version of TC 11.02.
It may be a bug as I don't remember to have changed any settings recently and I have tested it on 2 different computers with TC 64bit Win 10 and Win 11.
Can anyone confirm this?

I can confirm this behaviour, but only in 64bit TC. Tested both on Windows 7 and Windows 10. I do not have any LAV filters registered, I only have the filters copied to the Filter64 and Filter32 folders.

It is not all file types that are affected, I can for example still play .avi and .wmv files, but not .mp4 .m4v .flv and .mov files.

After setting Filter64dir=%COMMANDER_PATH%\Filter64 in the [Lister] section of my wincmd.oni, it works again - so apparently TC does not use the default location in the 64bit version. even though the help says it will:

Filter32dir=/Filter64dir= Set different location for directshow filters. Defaults to filter32/filter64 in the Total Commander directory

Moderator message from: petermad » 2024-01-21, 22:07 UTC

Moved to "TC11.x bug reports (English) from "Total Commander (English)"

[Fla$her]

but only in 64bit TC. Tested both on Windows 7 and Windows 10.

Do you have the opportunity to check x32 on XP? I only have sound playing there. Not only on this one, but also on previous versions.

[petermad]

2Fla$her

I udated TC to v. 11.03rc1 on my Windows WP 32bit, and the video playback in the internal player still works - but for XP you have to use LAV filters version 0.70.2 - the newer versions does not work on XP. The VSfilter.dll has to be version 2.41.322 to work on XP.

Same thing with the MPC-HC player - I cannot run newer versions than 1.7.13 on windows XP.

I have placed the filters that work with Windows XP here: https://tcmd.madsenworld.dk/LAVFilters

[ghisler(Author)]

Sorry, it's a bug in RC1. By mistake, both 32-bit and 64-bit version are looking in filter32 directory for their filters, but 64-bit should be looking in filter64. I will fix it in RC2. You can manually set the directory via wincmd.ini [lister]
Filter64dir=%COMMANDER_PATH%\Filter64
as described above.

[Fla$her]

but for XP you have to use LAV filters version 0.70.2 - the newer versions does not work on XP. The VSfilter.dll has to be version 2.41.322 to work on XP.
I have placed the filters that work with Windows XP here: https://tcmd.madsenworld.dk/LAVFilters

Thanks! It works with such files. I set it up this way for compatibility:

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Filter32dir=%COMMANDER_PATH%\FILTER32%XP%
Filter64dir=%COMMANDER_PATH%\FILTER64%XP%

, where %XP% = \XP or <empty> (setting in autorun.cfg).

2ghisler(Author)
Why not correct the data for XP listed here to the correct ones?
There is a link to the page with 3.0.0.306, not 2.41.322. Also, please specify this link there for XP.

Another problem:
Why don't threads close after closing Lister windows (F3/Ctrl+Q)? The sound continues to play if the pause has not been pressed. The icons with the green arrow remain in the notification area.

[ghisler(Author)]

Why not correct the data for XP listed here to the correct ones?

OK, changed it.

Also, please specify this link there for XP.

Added.

Why don't threads close after closing Lister windows (F3/Ctrl+Q)? The sound continues to play if the pause has not been pressed. The icons with the green arrow remain in the notification area.

I cannot reproduce that. Please provide step by step instructions.