TC 7 [req]: Tabspecific filters/history

[lpg]

Hello,

the feature I'm missing the most and hope for it in V7 is that every tab could have his own filter, that is is possible to save tabs with the set filters and that this also works in the Hotlist and History.

lpg

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[Balderstrom]

Hello,
the feature I'm missing the most and hope for it in V7 is that every tab could have his own filter, that is is possible to save tabs with the set filters and that this also works in the Hotlist and History.
lpg

Every tab could have its "own" of a lot of things, like its own font/colors, and/or turning on display filetypes by colors.
It's own history, a global history makes the back-forward almost useless since as soon as you switch to another tab, if you go back to the previous, then hit <back> it will change to the other folder's dir.
While that may be convenient for quickly moving a tab to another dir, its certainly not what back/forward should do.
Simly a back/forward for the Tab's history, and a global back/forward for a global history.

But I'm pretty sure I read this request before, I don't recall why it was denied.

[Lefteous]

2Balderstrom

But I'm pretty sure I read this request before, I don't recall why it was denied.

Yes a own history for each tab had been discussed.

Here is a quote from a discussion in the German forum:

...Ich hatte das mal ausprobiert, ist aber extrem unpraktisch, weil das gewünschte Verzeichnis natürlich gerade auf dem falschen Tab in der History steht, und ausserdem beim Schliessen des Tabs verloren geht. Schon jetzt ist es oft unpraktisch, dass linke und rechte Seite separate Histories haben...

Translation:
...I have tried this but it appeared to be completely impractical because the desired directory is listed in the history of another tab and beside that the history is lost when the tab is closed. Even now it's impractical that there are seperated historys for the left and the right hand side.

[SanskritFritz]

But what speaks against a global history AND a local tab history?
I often would gladly use a local tab history, and then of course there is times when i want to access the global history (which should be persistent across sessions of course )

[Lefteous]

2SanskritFritz

But what speaks against a global history AND a local tab history?
I often would gladly use a local tab history, and then of course there is times when i want to access the global history

That sounds like a very good idea!
One questions remains: Do we need a real global history or/and a per-side history?

which should be persistent across sessions of course

You mean both should be stored persistently, right?
If yes I suport this.

[SanskritFritz]

One questions remains: Do we need a real global history or/and a per-side history?

I agree with Christian here: one global history, since we have tab specific history, which should be enough for separation.

You mean both should be stored persistently, right?

Yes, this would be a very welcome feature i think.

[Balderstrom]

The only thing I like about Explorer, is how it handles Directory History.
ie, if you travel to D:\Programs\Common\Ahead\AudioPlugins\

then updir or backdir twice, and change directory to Java
it's "history" will be just:
D:\Programs\Common\Java
D:\Programs\Common\
D:\Programs\
D:\
You can't go forward farther than you already are, and you can't go back farther than the root you started at.

Although perhaps I'm in the minority, I find that "clean" implementation of history more useful than keeping a big list of every directory a tab has ever been to, no matter where it is at the given time when it changes paths.

Especially if a global history was implemented that kept all directories visited, perhaps a clean explorer-like structure would be better for individual tabs.

Also would be nice to be able to purge histories from a command - read that in another thread somewhere too.

[SanskritFritz]

2Balderstrom
There is a setting in the wincmd.ini, maybe the other setting is closer to explorer's behaviour:

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[Configuration]
HistoryAppend=1
1= Appends the directory selected from the history list (ALT+Cursor down) to the end of the history list (default)
0= Moves the current position in the history list to the selected item

[Balderstrom]

I also use ReverseHistory=1, as well as that, but since its a global left/right history, as soon as you change tabs, and go back to the previous - the other tabs directory is now 2nd in the list of visited folders. and if you backpage on your current page, instead of going to the previous dir, you go to the other tabs directory.

Like in my previous example, the history lists, after a tab change and back:
D:\Programs\Common\Java
C:\Users\Crash & Burn\Desktop\
D:\Programs\Common\
D:\Programs\Common\Ahead\
D:\Programs\Common\Ahead\AudioPlugins\
D:\Programs\
D:\

Basically I've gotten rid of the back/forward arrows on the MenuBar, and just use UpDir due to this behaviour.
And don't utilize the History much at all. Except when something like using the Folder Tree messes up the Tabs Directory, using "back" will get it back.

Suppose change the Back command in the FileMenu's to read:
"Duplicate Last Dir in this Tab"

[fredvej]

A "go back/forward" history per tab is the way it's implemented in Krusader (a TC for Linux/KDE). I don't recommend it, actually it's extremely annoying when one is used to TC.

E.g.: I have a directory in a tab in the left panel, then change to a different one. Now I want to open a tab in the left panel with the first directory in it, or any other directory that I have visited in the first tab. The history list is empty for the new tab, and I have to switch to the first tab, change to the directory I want using the history list, copy the path, switch back to the directory I had before, switch to the new tab and paste the path.

If you use the history for jumping between visited directories, one list per tab is extremely annoying. If you use the history to jump back and forth as if flipping pages in a book, one list per tab is very useful. Can we have it both ways ?

[Balderstrom]

@ Fredevel
Did you even read anyone else's post? The whole discussion is about having both, not one or the other
Even Left/Right or Single Global history could be an option.

[Lefteous]

2Balderstrom

Did you even read anyone else's post? The whole discussion is about having both, not one or the other

I think Fredevel wanted to point out that a change from the current behavior to a tabspecific history ONLY would be not a progress from his point of view.

[Vatchy]

A tab-specific directory history is something I would very much like to have. I use back-up a lot when accessing removable drives - very annoying to back out through other tab's directories. I'm starting to just open a new tab for removable drive access but that, too, is annoying, although it works.

[SanskritFritz]

Quite a dusty thread, but still relevant nevertheless. I also vote for tab specific history!

[roentgen]

I also vote for tab specific history!

Who doesn't!? Oh... I know... Mr. Ghisler for sure