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Hi

I saw taht back2life4tc v2.3 is out of beta stage, i guess it's now official release.Author removed size restricitons and there is no time limitations, just boring nag screen (it last 15 sec.)
For everyone interested here is url : http://grandutils.com/Back2Life4TC/

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Great Tool, but Shareware :(
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Why Should I use Back2Life if there are Freeware Tools like Restoration (http://www.snapfiles.com/get/restoration.html)
Whats the Advantage of Back2Life?
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Simple Answer: All in one, all in Totalcommander, no other Software necessary :) I am doing neraly everything with TC, regarding to my system.
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i'm probably too stupid, but i've never seen a working restoration program. i tried many of them. of course i deleted the testfiles on a harddisk where there is NO harddisk activity, and of course i copied them to another drive. but still the restorated files were different to the original, means useless. :?

those unerase tools worked nicely years back under DOS, but under windows they seem to have really big problems.
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Good recovery tools don't have any problems at all nowadays, they are working better than ever. :)

It helps if you are using NTFS of course because on a fragmented FAT partition it's rather difficult for simple tools to recover your files. The most sophisticated algorithms you will find in professional solutions like Easy Recovery only.

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i tested them under fat32, and right after deleteing it shows me already a "95% damaged", at least.

for me, this would call this useless. those tools claim to work under fat too, but in fact they don't. in a practical environement they all badly fail.

i'm not gonna defragment my harddisk beforei want to delete som files. :shock:
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It's normal that you read stuff like "95% damaged" on FAT, that doesn't mean that the file can not be recovered...

If you are using a bad file system you mustn't expect that recovery tools are able to do any magic on your files. If you want magic you need some professional solutions. Tools like "Restoration" are not suited for recovery on FAT at all. You won't even see the files you have just deleted when you search for them most of the time.

I just tried Back2Life and it works excellent. Recovery of a freshly deleted file on FAT32 was no problem at all. The same good job does http://diskinternals.com/ from the same developer as the NTFS4TC plugin.

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I tested it under fat32 and ntfs. Fat recovery was working really grath, but I expirienced some problem regarding NTFS recovery - files wasn't shown by plugin just after I deleted them.

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I have very mobile job, every day I work on at least 10 different PCs, so I carry mine TC on USB stick, so for me it's advantage that I don't have to install every pice of software on every PC I work on.
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pajo wrote:I have very mobile job, every day I work on at least 10 different PCs, so I carry mine TC on USB stick, so for me it's advantage that I don't have to install every pice of software on every PC I work on.
Freeware Tools like Restoration (http://www.snapfiles.com/get/restoration.html)
dont need to be installed :P
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Thanks for the tip, I will check that out
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Problem with the plugin search feature: when you delete a file, sometimes it loses the first letter(s) of its name and if you search for the original name, you won’t find it. Using the above mentioned freeware (Restoration) works fine.

Another problem: in a NTFS partition, when a delete a file (let’s say, in F: ) and rescan the drive, the deleted file is there. I delete a second file in the same path (F: ) and rescan, the first deleted file disappears and the second one appears. Is that a normal behavior of the NTFS file system? In this case, a recover tool will almost never work properly (if you delete a file, the previous deleted would be lost)?
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icfu wrote:It's normal that you read stuff like "95% damaged" on FAT, that doesn't mean that the file can not be recovered...

If you are using a bad file system you mustn't expect that recovery tools are able to do any magic on your files. If you want magic you need some professional solutions. Tools like "Restoration" are not suited for recovery on FAT at all. You won't even see the files you have just deleted when you search for them most of the time.
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it shows me about "95% damaged", and that's about what a "recovered" file looks like when i compare it with the original: totally useless.

i doubt fat32 is such a bad file system, in fact, i never had any crosslinked files, bad sectors or anything else on this drive.
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Expressing any doubts on rather obvious deficits of FAT32 compared to NTFS is rather pointless, sorry.

If you can't recover freshly deleted files there is either something wrong with your disk (heavily fragmented, corrupted FAT, etc...), the file has been overwritten (by system restore or other background tasks) or the recovery utility has any problems with FAT whatsoever like the above mentioned Restoration which is only a recommendation because it's small and free.

Microsoft itself limits the size of FAT32 disk creation to 32GB under modern operating systems because the risk of data loss is rising with bigger sizes.

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I also had problems with NTFS file system, I worked on cca.15 different PCs.Sometime I even coudn't see any file after scan.Disk was empty.I deleted several files but no efect, plug in couldn't saw them under NTFS.In another hand FAT was working perfectly.
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