I need your help for tabbed browsing!

[Valentino]

V> ... or Ctrl+Up/Down.
BD> ...or "Alt"+"F8". But neither "Alt"+"F8" nor "Ctrl"+UpAr/DnAr stands for putting "the focus into the commandline".
Not quite understood. Both key-combos put focus to cmd line on my PC (probably a bit special, if you remember what I hint about )!?

V> Parameters: /L="%P" /R="%T"
BD> Actually, "/N /L="%P" /R="%T"", Val, if you talking about new instance... %)
Well, you're generally right but I can omit /N because I have "Allow only 1 copy of TC" option off .

So if you implement both, user could chouse the most appropriate one for each.

Or both simultaneously, like wanderer described somewhere above.

[Lefteous]

which one is better, left or right side?

http://home.t-online.de/home/lefteous/images/tabsheetsortabbuttons.gif

[norfie]

[Lefteous]

which one is better, left or right side?

http://home.t-online.de/home/lefteous/images/tabsheetsortabbuttons.gif

Excuse me, for my stupid remark.
IMO tabs are tabs and buttons are buttons.
What are tab sheets and tab buttons?
Or is your question (for my understanding)
How do want switch between differents open directories with tabs or with buttons?
My (known) answer: I don't want to have nothing of both.

Tab sheets are on the left side. A standard windows PageControl consists of tab sheets. It's similarly to a tabcontrol.
Right side is Opera style. There is a tab button bar with buttons. Every button represents a tab. There is always one button toggled down to emphasize the active tab.
Especially to Norfie Opera has 5 states for the tab button bar: Top, Left, right, bottom and off


Some more design studies:

A simple popup menu which appears when the user presses Ctrl-Tab:
http://home.t-online.de/home/lefteous/images/ctrltabmenu.gif

A popup menu for the tab button bar similar to Operas:
http://home.t-online.de/home/lefteous/images/tabmenu.gif

(setting the tab button bar to "off" doesn't mean disabling tabs. The Ctrl-Tab menu and other tab operations still work)

[wanderer]

Seems it is the time to think about the wincmd.ini-concept.
Imo all the saved settings for [SearchIn], [DirMenu], [Selection], the MRT, [Command line history]... all the "user-created-entries" should be separated in a different - maybe called "TCUser.ini".
And of course - why not - an other one with the "packer-plugin-settings", according to the fs-/lsplugin.ini.
Benefit? The new TotalCmd.ini would only contain the default-settings for the behaviour of TC and could be read-only. (Very interesting for network installations of TC with limited user-rights).

I would like that very much. Having to manage more than 1 PC with TCmd is a pain when you want to change a single setting. It would be nice if a default INI existed perhaps in TCMDs dir and another ini (the user one in the user dir) containing only the settings the user has changed. I know it would be a big headache Christian but it would be nice if such a thing appeared in a future version of TCmd.

[wanderer]

Some more design studies:

A simple popup menu which appears when the user presses Ctrl-Tab:
http://home.t-online.de/home/lefteous/images/ctrltabmenu.gif

A popup menu for the tab button bar similar to Operas:
http://home.t-online.de/home/lefteous/images/tabmenu.gif

(setting the tab button bar to "off" doesn't mean disabling tabs. The Ctrl-Tab menu and other tab operations still work)

I use Opera since version 3.x and i find that it has many clever ideas (and many stupid bugs too ). I aggree with both your suggestions. I'd like to explain how the first picture works though (not everyone uses Opera ). When the user presses CTRL+TAB, the menu appears. As long as he keeps pressing the CTRL key, the tab menu is visible on screen. When he presses the tab button, the next entry of the menu is selected. When he releases CTRL, the menu disappears.

[Lefteous]

Some more design studies:

A simple popup menu which appears when the user presses Ctrl-Tab:
http://home.t-online.de/home/lefteous/images/ctrltabmenu.gif

A popup menu for the tab button bar similar to Operas:
http://home.t-online.de/home/lefteous/images/tabmenu.gif

(setting the tab button bar to "off" doesn't mean disabling tabs. The Ctrl-Tab menu and other tab operations still work)

I use Opera since version 3.x and i find that it has many clever ideas (and many stupid bugs too ). I aggree with both your suggestions. I'd like to explain how the first picture works though (not everyone uses Opera ). When the user presses CTRL+TAB, the menu appears. As long as he keeps pressing the CTRL key, the tab menu is visible on screen. When he presses the tab button, the next entry of the menu is selected. When he releases CTRL, the menu disappears.

Thank you for the explanation. You are right, screenshots cannot explain a behaviour like this. In my opinion it should be implemented the same way into TC.

[Gorbush]

2Cristian:

Will you realise some "status" information on tabs? I mean blinking of tab name, depending on what is happend in tab...
Like red blinking on copy operation, Blue blinking on end of copy operation. (as in MidnightCommander in Multi-Gnome-Terminal on Linux)...
Or (if it possible) - a small icon in tab like in systray while minimizing commander - showing status of copy operation in percents....
It would be nice to see - what happening....

[CADweazle]

I know it would be a big headache Christian...

I don't think so: most of the job would be to decide/identify the settings-type for the first time to put them in consistent ini-structures.
Once you've done this, the rest should be quite easy!

Again: e.g. the Totalcmd.ini would rest in a network-path, readonly - this would forbid to change to "expert-mode", the TCUser.ini would be in %userprofile% and could reflect the usersettings.
Looking foward to the new setup-dialogue-structure , all trees that concern such read-only-INIs could be disabled/grayed out.
Considering the future "commander_path" variable, it would be still usefull to determine the place/s, where these inis are located/considered.

Concerning consitency (fs/lsplugin.ini) the pcplugin.ini(packer-plugin) is a must to have

Get me right: I'm not an INImaniac, but the content of an INI should reflect it's usage.
AndtoobigallpurposeINI'sareunwieldy - Imho.

Greetings,

[Jonas]

A simple popup menu which appears when the user presses Ctrl-Tab:
http://home.t-online.de/home/lefteous/images/ctrltabmenu.gif

I like the Opera-Way and would clearly prefer Tab-Buttons instead of Tabsheets (the right side of your pic). I also made a simular fake some time ago http://www.jonas-baehr.de/forum/tabt-TC-2.png
And buttons are more flexible too (position[top/button/off], icons[read out of desktop.ini], drag&drop, etc.)

I hope there will be a mouse-over helptext with full path...

An other Feature-Request - "special tabs":
Search results (like in currend version but new tab) and Quickview are a kind of Special tabs
*) Background Transfer Manager (more tidy then sperat task)
*) A console (DOS-Box, command.com/cmd.exe) with simple way (hotkey) to transfer the path under the curser to it.
*) Logfile-viewer for the FTP-log (a combination of unix 'tail -F wcftplog.txt' and Quickview)
*) "linked view": the navigation is liked to the parend-tab butthe may be differend viewingsettings. If you navigate to an other dir, the linked view will also do this automaticly. (like in KDE Konqueror)

[Coco]

Personally I prefer tabsheet and at the bottom.

[WatchUer]

IMHO a configurable Tab Style will be great!

[norfie]

[deus-ex]

which one is better, left or right side?

I prefer the right-pane solution, i.e. Opera-Style.
It's visually much easier to determine, which Tab is active.

[VadiMGP]

Again: e.g. the Totalcmd.ini would rest in a network-path, readonly - this would forbid to change to "expert-mode", the TCUser.ini would be in %userprofile% and could reflect the usersettings.

It's not so easy. To prevent "expert-mode" you have to
- disable access to registry
- disable starting TC with .ini file in command line parameters.
- prevent remaping letter of network drive to other (writable) place.

And all this shouldn't prevent for administrator to run TC even network is down.