Refreshing Folder often doesn't work, why?

[Giplo]

My java application write a LOG file on Windows 7 64bit PC.
All works fine, and data are flushed immediately,
but I cannot see the new file size, even if I reread source (CTR + R).

If I edit the file, I can see new data and after closing the editor, TC shows the udpated file size.
If I open the folder with explorer and refresh (F5) also TC is refreshed ...

I've tried with 7.56a and with 8.0 b2 - 64.

Is there another command for refreshing folders ??

Thanks in advance

[ghisler(Author)]

I have seen this too sometimes - TC does get the wrong size from the system. I guess that the data isn't flushed to disk immediately. Some function in Explorer must be forcing the flush.

[kodybrown]

I see a similar thing, although while developing in C#. If I don't explicitly call the .Flush() method of my stream or file writer, TC (nor Windows Explorer) does not see the changes. Occasionally, I haven't seen the changes until the writer object was closed and/or set to null (causing the garbage collector to free up resources).

It's been a long time since I've developed for the desktop with Java, but I hope this is helpful!

[johnjt]

Will this get sometimes soon a fix?

I have a very simmilar problem when i use plugin to define different colour if there is a comment on a file.

when user A on PC A taggs a file with a comment i cannot see the file colour changing on user B with PC b site unless i 1. Change directory, 2. edit the file, 3. Colse TM and restart it or edit the comment.

This is realy annoying

[ghisler(Author)]

Unfortunately I don't see any way to fix this problem - Total Commander does not get a notification that something has changed.

[johnjt]

yeh but what is the difference between changeing folder and pressing the refreh button?

Refreh button does not show me the changes but if i change folder and then back again i can see the changes.

I would expect that the refresh button does the same as changing a folder.

[ghisler(Author)]

Refresh re-reads the entire directory, but only reloads icons when anything has changed in the directory listing, e.g. file sizes, timestamps, names, attributes.

[Ash Thoref]

Hi, I found something interesting. When I download a file, its size in TC doesn't refresh. CTRL+R doesn't help. But when I press F3 (open that file in Lister) and press ALT+TAB (or ESC to close Lister) to return to TC - its size "magically" updates. Maybe that will be some clue to solve that issue?

[HolgerK]

Known problem since windows Vista/7.
The OS does no notify applications in every case about filesystem changes.

FILE_NOTIFY_CHANGE_SIZE
0x00000008

Any file-size change in the watched directory or subtree causes a change notification wait operation to return. The operating system detects a change in file size only when the file is written to the disk. For operating systems that use extensive caching, detection occurs only when the cache is sufficiently flushed.

Only way around is manual refresh with <Ctrl+R> (with Configuration->Options.. Icons [x] Show overlay Icons enabled).
The read operation triggered by the refresh of the overlay icons seems to flush the ntfs cache.

Regards
Holger